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| Quote ="Nothus"Is your 'n' key broken?'"
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| Hi folks, great day today. We were there. The news about Chisholm is very promising, along with the three youngster signings. I cannot help but think that there is still 'stuff' going on behind the scenes. I am not sure that the Bulls will be saved from Championship 1, in the next five months, but still believe that things at Salford and therefore Manchester Rangers & Swinton may change for 2019.
If you were in the Top House before the game you were involved in a similar conversation, (just before the crisp packet )
I do hope that conversation was founded on information from elsewhere and not from a speculative post I made several weeks ago. If that is the case, that may add some veracity to the speculation. Again I do NOT know that this happening for certain, but lots of discussions and jigsaw pieces coming together. There may be light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully sooner than later, but definitely there, shining through.
Hope you enjoyed today folks. It was great to see some smiles at Odsal, even if just in relief at seeing a decent performance.
Keep everything crossed.
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Interesting watch, fair to say Tony Smith isnt a fan of the current structure! And very honest to say in Featherstone that maybe Fev shouldnt be allowed in if they dont meet certain criteria! With the point he makes being that it might not be good for the club if they're not ready and get more results like todays I presume? If the RFL are bringing back a form of licencing for 2019 I wonder how they have arrived (or will arrive) at that decision? What evidence have they looked at? and who have they talked to? Presumably at least passed it by the paymasters at sky?? And will we get to see a published review that supports any change for 2018 or 2019? As a sport we need to find the least worst structure that we think can grow the sport (not just geographically) then stick to it and make it a success, whatever that means for my own club (in the previous licening period we should have had our licence revoked and told to go away and rebuild outside SL), or the sport will diminish to (even further) insignificance.
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Interesting watch, fair to say Tony Smith isnt a fan of the current structure! And very honest to say in Featherstone that maybe Fev shouldnt be allowed in if they dont meet certain criteria! With the point he makes being that it might not be good for the club if they're not ready and get more results like todays I presume? If the RFL are bringing back a form of licencing for 2019 I wonder how they have arrived (or will arrive) at that decision? What evidence have they looked at? and who have they talked to? Presumably at least passed it by the paymasters at sky?? And will we get to see a published review that supports any change for 2018 or 2019? As a sport we need to find the least worst structure that we think can grow the sport (not just geographically) then stick to it and make it a success, whatever that means for my own club (in the previous licening period we should have had our licence revoked and told to go away and rebuild outside SL), or the sport will diminish to (even further) insignificance.'"
With regards sky isn't their deal up end of 2018? I think that's why they are waiting until 2019 for a restructure as they committed to 3 years of the current and the sky deal was for 3 years. The RFL really need to go to town this next time round to get a better deal up the salary cap and start slightly bridging the massive gap between us and the NRL
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| Quote ="thepimp007"With regards sky isn't their deal up end of 2018? I think that's why they are waiting until 2019 for a restructure as they committed to 3 years of the current and the sky deal was for 3 years. The RFL really need to go to town this next time round to get a better deal up the salary cap and start slightly bridging the massive gap between us and the NRL'"
Almost certain the sky deal has quite a few years still to run. No way is it up for renewal at the end of 2018.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Almost certain the sky deal has quite a few years still to run. No way is it up for renewal at the end of 2018.'"
Just had a look, it was agreed in 2014 but came into force in 2017 for 5 years
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| Sky deal runs until the end of the 2021 season.
The current deal lasts until 2021 and covers up to 100 matches per season. From 2014, they also simulcast all of Catalans Dragons' home games and from 2015, will broadcast regular Kingstone Press Championship matches.
Last bit is a bloody lie though!
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"... will broadcast regular Kingstone Press Championship matches.
Last bit is a bloody lie though!'"
Well, you could argue they do show regular matches
Once a year (Summer Bash) is [iregular[/i. Just not very [ifrequent[/i
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| This is my theory, see if anybody can imagine this actually happening
The RFL and the Bulls have known all along we would not be relegated this season, hence no obvious attempts to really strengthen the squad to try avoid finishing in the bottom 2. The RFL knew if they just changed the format at the end of the season and the Bulls did not go down there would be hell on. Now with some championship chairmen, we don't know how many, stating they would not want the Bulls to be relegated, the RFL now have a perfect opportunity to change the format and keep the Bulls in the championship and say it was all the over clubs who wanted this to happen. They would be able to pass the buck onto somebody else and save face. And Big Nige gets to take over a club that is on the up and not in the bottom league
Now does anybody think that is too far fetched to be true
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| Quote ="roger daly"
Now does anybody think that is too far fetched to be true'"
Not far-fetched at all
An even simpler scenario is that they'd decided that next seasons Championship would be 14 clubs, to even up the current 12/14/16 format to 12/14/14 and mean that League 1 can have a sensible format. With the Bulls in meltdown, they couldn't announce it then - because it would have looked like the RFL were massively favouring the Bulls. And Big Nigel couldn't have that, knowing that he was positioning himself to take over the club. So he whispered in Chalmers ear (hence the lack of investment). The rumblings from the Championship chairman simply gives him a convenient smokescreen.
Is that perhaps a bit less far-fetched
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| You make it sound very plausible put like that.
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| Quote ="roger daly"This is my theory, see if anybody can imagine this actually happening
The RFL and the Bulls have known all along we would not be relegated this season, hence no obvious attempts to really strengthen the squad to try avoid finishing in the bottom 2. The RFL knew if they just changed the format at the end of the season and the Bulls did not go down there would be hell on. Now with some championship chairmen, we don't know how many, stating they would not want the Bulls to be relegated, the RFL now have a perfect opportunity to change the format and keep the Bulls in the championship and say it was all the over clubs who wanted this to happen. They would be able to pass the buck onto somebody else and save face. And Big Nige gets to take over a club that is on the up and not in the bottom league
Now does anybody think that is too far fetched to be true'"
The answer to your question is at least six.
Listen to my interview with Alan Kilshaw from yesterday.
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| If it's 14 clubs in both championship and league 1 then the 13 home games works whichever division we're in. Careful what we wish for mind. Championship will have London Toulouse Toronto and still a chance of catalans
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| Quote ="rambull1967"If it's 14 clubs in both championship and league 1 then the 13 home games works whichever division we're in. Careful what we wish for mind. Championship will have London Toulouse Toronto and still a chance of catalans'"
But. Chairmen not particularly bothered about results but finances. Looking at the clubs you mentioned the CH clubs coffers are not going to be swelled by away support.
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| Quote ="rambull1967"If it's 14 clubs in both championship and league 1 then the 13 home games works whichever division we're in. Careful what we wish for mind. Championship will have London Toulouse Toronto and still a chance of catalans'"
Yep, even if we are somehow kept in the Championship we're not going to be in the top four at the end of the season. Will a mid-table finish bring in enough to rebuild in 2019 and push for a top 4 Champ slot - its a massive hill to climb irrespective of Champ/L1 next season.
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| However, we'd never get back into SL as the Championship chairmen wouldn't allow it..
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| I am close friends with someone who is let’s say at the top end of the pecking order at a very local championship team and he has offered to bet me £1000 that bradford will not be relegated, he has specifically said there’s been a meeting and bradford will not be going into league 1, make of that as you will but this is as close as to from the horses mouth as possible
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| I have heard from the man at the very very top that;
1. the Bulls are definitely NOT getting relegated down to League 1
2. the Bulls ARE definitely getting relegated down to League 1
There; wait till the truth is actually announced - I'll delete one of the above and take the credit for being in the know - simple - no-one will spot the fact that I actually know feck-all
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| Quote ="Smack him Jimmy"I have heard from the man at the very very top that;
1. the Bulls are definitely NOT getting relegated down to League 1
2. the Bulls ARE definitely getting relegated down to League 1
There; wait till the truth is actually announced - I'll delete one of the above and take the credit for being in the know - simple - no-one will spot the fact that I actually know feck-all'"
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| Quote ="Smack him Jimmy"I have heard from the man at the very very top that;
1. the Bulls are definitely NOT getting relegated down to League 1
2. the Bulls ARE definitely getting relegated down to League 1
There; wait till the truth is actually announced - I'll delete one of the above and take the credit for being in the know - simple - no-one will spot the fact that I actually know feck-all'"
Mock me all you want but I did say make of it as you will and simply said it’s what I’ve been told and I don’t treat it as 100% truth just thought I’d share the convo as this thread is directly related to said conversation
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| Quote ="roger daly"This is my theory, see if anybody can imagine this actually happening
The RFL and the Bulls have known all along we would not be relegated this season, hence no obvious attempts to really strengthen the squad to try avoid finishing in the bottom 2. The RFL knew if they just changed the format at the end of the season and the Bulls did not go down there would be hell on. Now with some championship chairmen, we don't know how many, stating they would not want the Bulls to be relegated, the RFL now have a perfect opportunity to change the format and keep the Bulls in the championship and say it was all the over clubs who wanted this to happen. They would be able to pass the buck onto somebody else and save face. And Big Nige gets to take over a club that is on the up and not in the bottom league
Now does anybody think that is too far fetched to be true'"
But the squad strengthening started to happen when players for 2018 started to become available.
It all fits.
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| Personally i wish the RFL would do what they are paid to do and run the sport them bloody selves (not the clubs) and enforce the rules everyone signed up for at the start,
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Personally i wish the RFL would do what they are paid to do and run the sport them bloody selves (not the clubs) and enforce the rules everyone signed up for at the start,'"
Massively this. How much of a joke is it that these sort of comments are even made? Not one other professional sport is run in such an unprofessional manner. I do think Roger Draper is a step in the right direction but it needs a whole heap more
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Personally i wish the RFL would do what they are paid to do and run the sport them bloody selves (not the clubs) and enforce the rules everyone signed up for at the start,'"
The RFL is effectively made up of representatives from the clubs anyway, so it's pretty much the same thing. Just be thankful it's been streamlined a bit and the RFL committees don't involve one rep from [ievery[/i club as they did in years gone by.
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| Quote ="BradfordLadB"Mock me all you want but I did say make of it as you will and simply said it’s what I’ve been told and I don’t treat it as 100% truth just thought I’d share the convo as this thread is directly related to said conversation'"
BradfordLadB, I wasnt personally mocking you - if I wanted to do that I would have directly quoted you in my comment.
But we get plenty of first time posters on here who are "in the know".
So unless the cap fits, take a pill.
We never know, Mr Chalmers himself may be one of the new posters
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