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| If it transpires that all the rumours are in fact true and the club is indeed on the brink or yet another administration then I have to admit that I'd be very impressed with Mr. Green's big brass ones after releasing last weeks statement, especially in the manner that it was delivered.
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| Indeed.
I expect to hear something more substantial in the next 12-24hrs.
I'm expecting the worst in order to be pleasantly surprised when next year's season ticket prices are announced
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Actually yes you can, but that's beside the point. I didn't actually say that anyway. I said they need to come out and say something regardless of true or not.'"
Huh, why should they? Should they really have to come out and comment on every rumour? Especially if they are nonsense.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You can't deny something that is true.'"
To remove all ambiguity, what is true that they cannot deny??? And quote your source please so we can file in the right folder?
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You can't deny something that is true.'"
You tried to deny the tweet you deleted was about Bradford.........
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"You can't deny something that is true.'"
Oops. I think somebody meant to use the Tasker login.
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| Quote ="debaser"Huh, why should they? Should they really have to come out and comment on every rumour? Especially if they are nonsense.'"
See my earlier comment in the thread as to why.
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| Here we go again. Does anyone know how much a full-valet and wash, wax and wheel scrub costs?
And is it more expensive if a first teamer does the work?
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| Cant say Im disappointed with ferres leaving. The reasons we didn't go up last year and the failure this year, and it is a complete and utter failure for a full time team to finish below 2 part time teams on a fraction on our budget - that's not being disrespectful to two fantastic teams who deservedly beat us, it just highlights our homemade failings on so many levels for so many years. The failures stem from the people in charge of recruitment and squad management throughout 2015 and the pre season 2016. Both are now gone, I'd have sacked Lowes after last seasons MPG fiasco.
As for the other money troubles, I suspect we are shorter on cash than was forecast due to the rubbish season, which has led to lower than expected gates and prize money. As to if this will lead to anything more dramatic I have no idea like most of us, I'll just wait for the next corner on the rollercoaster and react when there are some more facts to read.
A statement should be coming from the club today if Ferres has gone, so we'll see what messers Duffy/Paul/Green have to say first.
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| Quote ="debaser"Huh, why should they? Should they really have to come out and comment on every rumour? Especially if they are nonsense.'"
Well, in light of what has gone on at the club over the last few years then, yes, if the rumours suggest the same then the club have to come out and deny it if it is completely untrue. I think, as fans, we deserve to be told.
Bradford Bulls have been alienating and deliberately misinforming their fans for years now. Whilst, till now, people could blame the "previous regime" I think that it is quite important that the current incumbents ensure that they do not go down the same road.
I heard Green on BCB talking about the fans who are now staying away. He seemed to suggest that it was the fault of the "glory hunters". Whilst this may well be partly true, the club has to take the responsibility for the actions it has have over the years that will have driven some of the more loyal ones away too.
We are an utter shambles of a club and nobody seems to want to do anything that may make us believe that there is a future.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Quote ="debaser"Huh, why should they? Should they really have to come out and comment on every rumour? Especially if they are nonsense.'"
Well, in light of what has gone on at the club over the last few years then, yes, if the rumours suggest the same then the club have to come out and deny it if it is completely untrue. I think, as fans, we deserve to be told.
Bradford Bulls have been alienating and deliberately misinforming their fans for years now. Whilst, till now, people could blame the "previous regime" I think that it is quite important that the current incumbents ensure that they do not go down the same road.
I heard Green on BCB talking about the fans who are now staying away. He seemed to suggest that it was the fault of the "glory hunters". Whilst this may well be partly true, the club has to take the responsibility for the actions it has have over the years that will have driven some of the more loyal ones away too.
We are an utter shambles of a club and nobody seems to want to do anything that may make us believe that there is a future.'"
I have everything covered on BCB tonight at 5:00pm.
Hopefully you can join in.
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| Quote ="Stul"Oops. I think somebody meant to use the Tasker login.'"
And again.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"I have everything covered on BCB tonight at 5:00pm.
Hopefully you can join in.'"
Oh careful Mick, don't be cryptic, you know that you caused the world to end last time.
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| Quote ="debaser"Quote ="MicktheGled"I have everything covered on BCB tonight at 5:00pm.
Hopefully you can join in.'"
Oh careful Mick, don't be cryptic, you know that you caused the world to end last time.'"
To end the world in 140 characters.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"To end the world in 140 characters.'"
And Steve Ferres in a Wild Flower.
Hold Twitter in the palm of your hand.
And all breaking news about the club in a few hours.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"I have everything covered on BCB tonight at 5:00pm.
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Dude. I am working till 5.15 but I will try to tune in via my phone app on the drive to Stirling to pick up Mrs Eddie.
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| I'm a bit baffled by it all to be honest. If Mr Green is a successful businessman then he hides it very well. He started last week's statement by saying that he's felt forced to say something about the future of the club and then wonders why fans have become disillusioned and stay away?
I just don't get it? I this was my business and damaging rumours were being spread then I would do my utmost to put a stop to them. Why? Because it is MY business and I'd want to keep my paying customers happy. If Mr. Green is of the opinion that he shouldn't have to keep justifying himself then he can't complain if his business suffers from it. Like I said, I just don't get it? Is all this beneath him? Is he bothered? Or has it gone too far for it to make a blind bit of difference?
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I'm a bit baffled by it all to be honest. If Mr Green is a successful businessman then he hides it very well. He started last week's statement by saying that he's felt forced to say something about the future of the club and then wonders why fans have become disillusioned and stay away?
I just don't get it? I this was my business and damaging rumours were being spread then I would do my utmost to put a stop to them. Why? Because it is MY business and I'd want to keep my paying customers happy. If Mr. Green is of the opinion that he shouldn't have to keep justifying himself then he can't complain if his business suffers from it. Like I said, I just don't get it? Is all this beneath him? Is he bothered? Or has it gone too far for it to make a blind bit of difference?'"
The problem is though that it is not really his business. An ideal model would see sports club owners making a tidy profit but, in the real world, unless you are one of the top clubs in any sport, it really does not happen.
And, if the chairman WAS making a lot of coin from the club there would invariably be calls for them to spend more and buy more as they really should have the best interests of the club, and not themselves, at heart.
It is more an ego thing IMO.
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| There is two ways to look at this.
Green has to date always been upfront with the fans in so much to give an honest (often too honest) update on where he and the club are. It is not his position to provide a detailed update every day when rumours circulate, nor should he. He is running a business and as such he will make a judgement on when he should and should not provide the details that quite frankly don't need to be in the public domain.
Nothing I have seen or heard in the last few weeks has left me fearing the worst or feeling impending doom.
On the other hand, we have all been through this before. I as well as others have stuck by the owners and trusted them to do the best by the club and supporters. I firmly believe this has always been their intentions but in most occasions a lack of experience in the game has left them badly informed and out of their depth. Is it the case of no smoke without fire???
I do think it was very naive of Green/the club to not pre-arrange a statement following the Fev game, it was always bound to kick off the rumour mill and therefore I think a lot of what has gone on since has been as a direct result.
I wouldn't believe a single word Lockwood says. The man is a media menace. Some of the stuff he comes up with, particularly in the local non-sports rag is unbelievable and how he gets away with spouting off his own views of the world is crazy. Same can be said for Ross at the T&A who has an obvious chip considering he doesn't get his own way with the club as he used to. League Express however is a different matter and that is more of a concern than any other media release.
In the end, worrying won't matter one jot. Might as well relax, sit back and wait for it all to come out in the wash. Only thing I can guarantee is that if there is still a club in existence come next February, I will be there with my season ticket ready to support whoever takes to the field.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"The problem is though that it is not really his business. An ideal model would see sports club owners making a tidy profit but, in the real world, unless you are one of the top clubs in any sport, it really does not happen.
And, if the chairman WAS making a lot of coin from the club there would invariably be calls for them to spend more and buy more as they really should have the best interests of the club, and not themselves, at heart.
It is more an ego thing IMO.'"
Why don't you buy the club then and pump all your own cash in... if that is in the best interest of the club???
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Quote ="MicktheGled"I have everything covered on BCB tonight at 5:00pm.
Hopefully you can join in.'"
Dude. I am working till 5.15 but I will try to tune in via my phone app on the drive to Stirling to pick up Mrs Eddie.'"
We'll have all the latest news on the departure of Steve Ferres.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"There is two ways to look at this.
Green has to date always been upfront with the fans in so much to give an honest (often too honest) update on where he and the club are. It is not his position to provide a detailed update every day when rumours circulate, nor should he. He is running a business and as such he will make a judgement on when he should and should not provide the details that quite frankly don't need to be in the public domain.
Nothing I have seen or heard in the last few weeks has left me fearing the worst or feeling impending doom.
On the other hand, we have all been through this before. I as well as others have stuck by the owners and trusted them to do the best by the club and supporters. I firmly believe this has always been their intentions but in most occasions a lack of experience in the game has left them badly informed and out of their depth. Is it the case of no smoke without fire???
I do think it was very naive of Green/the club to not pre-arrange a statement following the Fev game, it was always bound to kick off the rumour mill and therefore I think a lot of what has gone on since has been as a direct result.
I wouldn't believe a single word Lockwood says. The man is a media menace. Some of the stuff he comes up with, particularly in the local non-sports rag is unbelievable and how he gets away with spouting off his own views of the world is crazy. Same can be said for Ross at the T&A who has an obvious chip considering he doesn't get his own way with the club as he used to. League Express however is a different matter and that is more of a concern than any other media release.
In the end, worrying won't matter one jot. Might as well relax, sit back and wait for it all to come out in the wash. Only thing I can guarantee is that if there is still a club in existence come next February, I will be there with my season ticket ready to support whoever takes to the field.'"
There's a lot I agree with there.
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Why don't you buy the club then and pump all your own cash in... if that is in the best interest of the club???'"
Eh? What are you on about?
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| Bulls statement on Ferris department states that they will be looking to replace him ASAP. Hardly the actions of a club with one foot in the coffin. I'm going to stop worrying about it all now and get on with some work. Some people in the media appear to have an agenda with the club.
Edit: It does make me wonder what Robbie's role at the club is?
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Bulls statement on Ferris department states that they will be looking to replace him ASAP. Hardly the actions of a club with one foot in the coffin. I'm going to stop worrying about it all now and get on with some work. Some people in the media appear to have an agenda with the club.
Edit: It does make me wonder what Robbie's role at the club is?'"
I really just wish they'd tacked on the bottom "Other rumours that have emerged this weekend about financial issues are totally unfounded". Then we could go back to not caring about Whitehaven away this weekend instead of wondering what the hell is going on.
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