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| Quote ="rambull1967"Coaches always want two more players......I,m struggling to keep up with who we've got there's been that many comings and goings.
We shouldn't be buying any players until we give the under 19's an extended run in those positions. Joe Lumb and Ethan Ryan are not out of their depth from what Iv seen. We must have others???'"
Agreed. Dread to think the amount of cap we've used on players Lowes has no intention of using whatsoever.
Being in championship is perfect opportunity to blood a few youngsters and save cap money to get genuine quality in. Could have tried a promising scrum half we had last year...
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| Quote ="vbfg"Quote ="Peter Hood"The facts are that the RFL won't give the ground back to Green for the reasons mentioned in the T&A today.'"
No reason at all then? There are no reasons mentioned in the T&A today.'"
I suspect the RFL don't want Marc Green making a killing in the pocket from the sale of Odsal to developers.
Peter Hood's decision to sell Odsal has ensured the grounds longevity. Bravo Peter.
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| Quote ="Peter Hood"I suspect the RFL don't want Marc Green making a killing in the pocket from the sale of Odsal to developers.
Peter Hood's decision to sell Odsal has ensured the grounds longevity. Bravo Peter.'"
Just one small correction required, the hole is actually owned by the council, the RFL and formerly the Bulls just lease it. Only the council could sell Odsal to Marc, and given the even larger financial hole the council has resulting from Gideon's long term economic plan they would want serious coin for it.
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| According to today's T&A Lovegrove may be back soon. Hope he is, quality player
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| Quote ="roger daly"According to today's T&A Lovegrove may be back soon. Hope he is, quality player'"
That read to me like he's going to be out longer. concussions are tricky
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"Just one small correction required, the hole is actually owned by the council, the RFL and formerly the Bulls just lease it. Only the council could sell Odsal to Marc, and given the even larger financial hole the council has resulting from Gideon's long term economic plan they would want serious coin for it.'"
So who owns what? I thought at the end of last year The Bulls bought the freehold from the council. It's just the head lease that the RFL own that we don't have yet.
The Bulls are the owners, the RFL leases from the Bulls then the Bulls sublease it from the RFL. Or is that piece saying the purchase from the council didn't go through as well as the purchase from the RFL?
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| Quote ="Highlander"So who owns what? I thought at the end of last year The Bulls bought the freehold from the council. It's just the head lease that the RFL own that we don't have yet.
The Bulls are the owners, the RFL leases from the Bulls then the Bulls sublease it from the RFL. Or is that piece saying the purchase from the council didn't go through as well as the purchase from the RFL?'"
We certainly do not own the freehold. Marc has stated that he eventually wants to own the freehold, but right now he's still in the process of acquiring the leasehold, which the rfl own and are apparently refusing to sell. The freehold is currently held by bradford council.
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| I've been of the opinion for a while our future can't be Odsal.
What the implications of that statement are I'm not so sure - but to be a Warrington type ground 12-18,000 capacity in a joint venture with some one would enable us to move forward.
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| Found it. The agreement with the council has been made (February). So I don't know what the hold up is now.
"The Odsal chairman said: "We’ve had a little bit of a stall and it’s with the legal teams – the issue is over car parking obligations outside the stadium.
"However, the agreement with the council has been done and the terms have been agreed.
"It’s just legal solicitors arguing between the two and doing what they do best, which is running up their costs."
But that article doesn't mention the Council agreement at all, it is just going on about the RFL lease. Why only tell part of the story?
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| Quite disappointed considering the date that it's now after 09:30 and we haven't had someone say we've signed a superstar halfback, or Jimmy Lowes has been sacked. I fully expected something along those lines by now!
I thought about doing an April Fool that we've signed another prop, but we probably have....
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| Quote ="Highlander"Found it. The agreement with the council has been made (February). So I don't know what the hold up is now.
"The Odsal chairman said: "We’ve had a little bit of a stall and it’s with the legal teams – the issue is over car parking obligations outside the stadium.
"However, the agreement with the council has been done and the terms have been agreed.
"It’s just legal solicitors arguing between the two and doing what they do best, which is running up their costs."
But that article doesn't mention the Council agreement at all, it is just going on about the RFL lease. Why only tell part of the story?'"
The article you are quoting in fact doesn't seem to mention the RFL lease. Your quote seems to clearly refer to a negotiation for Green to buy the freehold from the Council.
It wouldn't need to mention the lease arrangements at all. If Green owned the freehold then the RFL would be his tenants and the Bulls would be the RFL's subtenants. The RFL would continue to get their rent from the Bulls, but the RFL's payments of rent would now be going to Green (by which I mean to whatever company was used to make the acquisition).
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"(by which I mean to whatever company was used to make the acquisition).'"
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| Quote ="vbfg"Future Prospects Ltd.'"
"Future prospects limited" - that could be seen as a very fair assessment!
But I don't think it can be a coincidence that it's an anagram of
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| I knew I'd introduced confusion when I re-read it. The T&A article at the top of the thread from this week only goes on about the RFL lease of the site at Odsal. But I was sure we had the freehold or were in advanced negotiation for it. Which is the quote from an article in the T&A from February.
But if we had nearly completed the council purchase 8weeks ago, the silence is a bit deafening, and Ross the reporter hasn't mentioned it at all in this weeks article.
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| I personally don't feel like we need a centre or a Fullback. I think what we need is to give either Mathers, Thomas, Campbell or Clare a decent run at fullback and they will develop and play better as the season goes on. Too much chopping and changing in my opinion at the moment in that position.
Centre? We don't need any. Purtell and Welham with Blythe as cover/bench. One gets injured play Clare there. Two get injured we have a good youngster in Ryan who can play. Failing that we have Mendeika and Uaisele who can do a job for a game or two (hope they don't but ah well).
If Lovegrove retires (I hope he does if it means he keeps his health) we don't need to bring in another prop. Clough, Sidlow, Fleming, Crossley, Lauaki (if needs be), Kavanagh and Walker who have all played either Super League or International. Clark is looking the part as well, so he pretty much guaranteed a place now.
What we need is an out and out scrum half who can organise, he doesn't even need to be amazing. Just someone to organise and take on the line and that frees up Gaskell to do his thing eg. Deacon and H.Paul.
What I am not as sure of, is what the hell we are paying Steve Ferres to do? It's like he does knack all at the Bulls.
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| Beau Henry, former St George and Newcastle halfback is currently playing in the nsw cup I believe. He's not considered NRL material by Wayne Bennet(he's released him twice) but he looks the sort of player who could do a job for us. I've seen some clips of him and he reminds me a bit of Robbie Paul.[url=http://youtu.be/S0XyKsLHPZcHighlights[/url
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Beau Henry, former St George and Newcastle halfback is currently playing in the nsw cup I believe. He's not considered NRL material by Wayne Bennet(he's released him twice) but he looks the sort of player who could do a job for us. I've seen some clips of him and he reminds me a bit of Robbie Paul.[url=http://youtu.be/S0XyKsLHPZcHighlights[/url'"
Looks spot on, probably not a world beater but we cant afford that, seems to have more to his game than Seijka or what we have now, get on the blower guys and bring him here.
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| yes, we don't have many strike weapons, but at least we'd be the only team with a Beau and Caro
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| [urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G_WArX4bXE&nohtml5=False[/url
more recent, we all know it will never happen but we can live in hope cant we
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| I hope you sign him just so Mark Aston will spontaneously combust with anger
Seriously though, if he didn't meet requirements to join Sheffield just a few months ago I doubt he will be allowed to sign for Bradford now. If Sheffield have a contract with his name on it then they might even have '1st dibs' if his status changes.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"I hope you sign him just so Mark Aston will spontaneously combust with anger
Seriously though, if he didn't meet requirements to join Sheffield just a few months ago I doubt he will be allowed to sign for Bradford now. If Sheffield have a contract with his name on it then they might even have '1st dibs' if his status changes.'"
I didn't know Sheffield had tried to sign him. But it seems that he hadn't made enough appearances to be allowed to sign. Still, he's a decent player so it would make sense to try and get him on board. If he'd agreed a deal to go to Sheffield then I can't see why he'd turn down Bradford
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"I didn't know Sheffield had tried to sign him. But it seems that he hadn't made enough appearances to be allowed to sign. Still, he's a decent player so it would make sense to try and get him on board. If he'd agreed a deal to go to Sheffield then I can't see why he'd turn down Bradford'"
Between now and Sheffield trying to sign hm he's been playing so maybe he's now got enough games to qualify for visa?. Rumour on social media we're announcing a signing this weekend or next week, which ties in with way Ross phrased article. Doubt it's this guy though.
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| Quote ="mat"Between now and Sheffield trying to sign hm he's been playing so maybe he's now got enough games to qualify for visa?. Rumour on social media we're announcing a signing this weekend or next week, which ties in with way Ross phrased article. Doubt it's this guy though.'"
Unless we have buttered the RFL up to go for a dispensation NSW cup games won't make the slightest difference.
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