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| Money can't save Salford now. I fully expect the full 20 points to be handed down to them, such is the severity of the crimes.
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| Quote ="Peter Hood":jev22hq4Money can't save Salford now. I fully expect the full 20 points to be handed down to them, such is the severity of the crimes.'" :jev22hq4
Money can, though.
They [i:jev22hq4could[/i and waltz back up the year after. Money rules!
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| Koukash has had enough run-ins with the RFL. Should they get punished there is more than a good chance that he will walk.
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| Exceeding the salary cap due to an honest admin error is one thing but to do it by deliberate manipulation and deceit is another and far worse. Does the RFL have a 'Fit and Proper Person' rule for club owners. Anyone deliberately manipulating to exceed the cap surely would be found not to fall into the Fit and Proper category whatever the magnitude of default.
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| Quote ="melly88"
BUT if this all blows up, would you be worried if you were DB and Leigh? He and Koukash seemed to take a liking to each other eventually, maybe Koukash shared some of his secrets in how to "fit" players under the cap??'"
Reminds of when Caisley & Lindsay were such good buddies and look where it got us!
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| Quote ="Blotto"Reminds of when Caisley & Lindsay were such good buddies and look where it got us!
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Id still love to shoot them two b'stards now
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| The Ch9 footy show mentioned this but were low key about it, seemingly their feedback from UK sources suggest no drama as yet!
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| The RFL aren't really to blame. Yet. That will depend on what they do about it now that the evidence is right there in front of them.
Remember the Keith Senior and RFL case? Where it was highlighted that Keith and his wife were sole directors of a company that Crusaders had a contract with. Massive implication that he was being paid that way to supplement his wage off the cap.
If that's the way this has been done with Puletua, and it looks like this is the case, the RFL would have had no way at all of policing it initially. They can look over clubs' books all they like, but if it was (theoretically) another company owned by the doctor that was paying another company owned by Puletua, then the RFL have no legal right to look into the books of those two companies. So they have no way of proving it's happening.
Until it comes out in court due to Puletua suing Salford. Which is what's happened here, which is why the RFL can now take action.
Not a reflection at all on the Live Salary Cap, just a reflection on how clubs can get around it and the RFL can do very little about it.
Other clubs have been accused of using the same way to get round the cap in the past, but I'm not stupid enough to name them on here.
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| The Doc has just been on radio saying he will take RFL through courts.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"The Doc has just been on radio saying he will take RFL through courts.'"
has the Doc checked the RFL rules?. Pretty certain there's a standing rule that a member club will have their membership suspended in the event they take legal action against RFL for the duration of said legal action and they aren't able to take part in RFL games whilst suspended IIRC.
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| Is it enforceable?
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| Quote ="Highlander"Is it enforceable?'"
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| I'm to an extent with Koukash. The RFL want to fix a hearing and only then serve documents detailing the allegations as little as 14 days before the hearing. For something so serious especially, that's an utter joke.
Especially as he's apparently been told he can't use his solicitors as they also work for RFL so are conflicted, so he'd need to find new lawyers.
Quote "RFL:"Any club that is charged in relation to breaches of the RFL operational rules and salary cap regulations will be presented with the full case file of evidence at least 14 days before the hearing takes place."'"
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| Quote ="mat"has the Doc checked the RFL rules?. Pretty certain there's a standing rule that a member club will have their membership suspended in the event they take legal action against RFL for the duration of said legal action and they aren't able to take part in RFL games whilst suspended IIRC.'"
I wouldn't be sure the Doc has even checked a dictionary to see what the word, 'rules', might actually mean. His public announcements give the appearance of him not caring over much about rules - surely there can't be people who believe that they only apply to the little people?
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| Dr M posting they have been docked 6 points. I forgot what day it was!
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| Quote ="debaser"Docked 6 points and a further 2 for crowd trouble.
Not going to change anything regarding next season really is it? Not sure the RFL have thought it through, just for a change...'"
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| Quote ="debaser"Dr M posting they have been docked 6 points. I forgot what day it was!'"
His Twitter looks like RL Banter have actually done the April Fools, and Koukash has fallen for it. Which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Although admittedly him falling for it is likely to be his April Fools joke.
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| Quote ="roger daly"For once I don't think the RFL can be blamed on this one. Yes they are supposed to police a live salary cap but if somebody pays his players on 2 contracts, 1 what they declare and 1 that nobody knows about, what could the RFL of done.
Maybe the Dr should of thought this would come out when he was getting in dispute with his players over payments, some of them secret payments.'" this has been going on for years dodging the salary cap
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| you have my sympathy on this one, all of a sudden the RFL have found them selves in a pile of poo and they can't get out of this one
I fair bet time will try and sweep this under the carpet but you lot should be shouting from the roof tops
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| Tribunal set for 25th April.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Tribunal set for 25th April.'"
Have you seen what Koukash put on his Twitter last night, brilliant. He must of had a few G and Ts
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| I don't know how to put a link on here. If anybody knows how to do it, please share
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| Cheers Vbfg
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| @drmarwanK:
"If I had offended the RFL by saying I hated them, then I sincerely apologise but I want them to know I meant it . "
He definitely had a few JD and cokes last night
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