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| Quote ="roger daly"Didn't really understand that. Heard if we get promoted Brian Smith is back, if we don't get promoted I've no idea who is the coach'"
So you have nothing to worry about next week. If B.Smith has a job lined up with Bradford if they get promoted, he's hardly going to break his back to try and win the million pounder ? Makes no sense.
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| Well done to Halifax they wanted and needed it more than us. Can someone please explain what Luaki and Henry bring to the team, they are useless. I know Henry wont figure next week (hopefully) bur I bet Luaki will, it baffles me. Like previous posters have said our back up players are not good and a good clear out is needed next season irrespective of where we are playing.
Again well done Halifax for winning and shoving it up Fatty Beaumont
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| FA is correct about it being a "dead rubber" and didn't matter. I have a different overall view of this game though.
True - the result didn't really matter...........but:
The performance of fringe players that Jimmy and Steve have signed did matter.
Seeing the coach get these players up for the game and playing to a plan did matter.
Giving thousands of people who have paid top prices value for money did matter
Showing the club in a good light on TV did matter
Watching players give their all for the club did matter
Many now believe that because we are in the £1m game means Jimmy had done well.
Leigh have fallen off a cliff so how bad will we have had to have been to NOT get into that game.
We have played poorly and walked into the play-off game.
We beat Salford and Leigh and that is about all we had to do.
How hard has it really been to get 5th spot?
If we win next week all is forgotten and forgiven.
If we lose all of a sudden many thousands will look back over the season and realise how poor we have been.
The novelty factor of visiting old stomping grounds will not be there next year - done that, got the T-shirt.
Count up the games we have played really well - as a SL team in the championship as Ferres told us - you will only need one hand and still have enough spare fingers to pick your nose and scratch your .
Many supporter will decide to pay on the gate for those few games. Why pay for those awful performances against no hoper's now the novelty factor has faded.
So next week is vital for the club, ST sales and yes - Jimmy. Karl is leaving and I do believe Jimmy has struggled with the squad and getting the best out of them. Can people honestly say we would have been worse this season with one of many other coaches. Would Morro, Nobby, Kear or Smith have done any worse?
And that is why Jimmy must get them up for the game next week - as it really does matter next Saturday.
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| That game sort of went as expected with the team put out, although I didn't think we'd lose by so many. Fair play to Fax, they beat the team in front of them and I hope they get the extra funding from that result. I personally, would have gone for the win to make sure that Wakey play a good team tomorrow. That's gone now so they can rest whoever they like. Very strange tactics by Jimmy for the qualifiers. Either genius or stupid?
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| I think Ryan and Fleming have possibly played themselves into a spot in the 17 next week. I've said for a while now that I would put Fleming ahead of Lauaki in the pecking order for props, and today didn't do anything to change that opinion.
Ryan's contribution was very impressive, played the full 80 and made a lot of yards down our left flank. Took his try well too.
Not sure what I'd do about scrum half though. Siejka's defence is sound and his distribution is ok, but he doesn't seem to be able to take control of a game and he was outplayed by the fax seven today, who I thought had a cracker.
Halifax, to their credit, played really well and scored some very nice tries. They deserve the extra cash that today's performance has (probably) won them.
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| Well a few players showed how poor they were to day, Henery for one and that tub of lard Lauki should have played his last game at Bradford just a running donut that gives away penalties. Mark Green should be asking jimmy why we seem to be so inconsistent, and why we performed so badly to day.
A lot of bradford supporters paid good money to-day to see their team who are supposed to be knocking on the SL door and playing their last game of the season at Odasl and they put out a shambolic performance like that, i think an apology from Jimmy on his teams performance is due to the loyal supporters.
Wakefield must be laughing all the way back to SL after that game, are we SL material! not a chance.
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| I can see you're upset, but would you rather he played the second teamers with a view to doing a Salford on Wakefield with our best 17, or would you rather we won today and lost v Wakey?
What some people seem to forget is that we are going into this game with a huge handicap in terms of slary and player resources, and Lowes is rightly targeting our only remaining game - not today's dead rubber. As a top dollar season ticket holder I had already paid plenty for today but I'm not whingeing at lowes, only a fool would criticise him for doing anything he can to at least give us some hope in the big one.
If you want to have a vent, then do so at the players who bent over and pulled their pants down in the second half. They are the reason you didn't get VFM today, not Lowes. They "should" have been more than capable of beating the part timers of Fax if they have any genuine ambition to be SL players. It wasn't our strongest team, but it was full of players claiming to be worth an SL chance. It's not Lowes' fault they played like soiled underpants.
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| Super League. They are having a laugh, you've got a large squad so did have the ability to rest a large number of players but to be fair on today's performance a large chunk of them have been robbing a wage all year. We beat what you put out, and beat them well, but we could do no more than that.
I think there will be large scale unloading in the close season regardless of next weeks result, perhPs one of those will be the coach, we will see.
Good luck next week.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I can see you're upset, but would you rather he played the second teamers with a view to doing a Salford on Wakefield with our best 17, or would you rather we won today and lost v Wakey?
What some people seem to forget is that we are going into this game with a huge handicap in terms of slary and player resources, and Lowes is rightly targeting our only remaining game - not today's dead rubber. As a top dollar season ticket holder I had already paid plenty for today but I'm not whingeing at lowes, only a fool would criticise him for doing anything he can to at least give us some hope in the big one.
If you want to have a vent, then do so at the players who bent over and pulled their pants down in the second half. They are the reason you didn't get VFM today, not Lowes. They "should" have been more than capable of beating the part timers of Fax if they have any genuine ambition to be SL players. It wasn't our strongest team, but it was full of players claiming to be worth an SL chance. It's not Lowes' fault they played like soiled underpants.'"
Soiled underpants usually cling to the body, unlike our tackling
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I can see you're upset, but would you rather he played the second teamers with a view to doing a Salford on Wakefield with our best 17, or would you rather we won today and lost v Wakey?
What some people seem to forget is that we are going into this game with a huge handicap in terms of slary and player resources, and Lowes is rightly targeting our only remaining game - not today's dead rubber. As a top dollar season ticket holder I had already paid plenty for today but I'm not whingeing at lowes, only a fool would criticise him for doing anything he can to at least give us some hope in the big one.
If you want to have a vent, then do so at the players who bent over and pulled their pants down in the second half. They are the reason you didn't get VFM today, not Lowes. They "should" have been more than capable of beating the part timers of Fax if they have any genuine ambition to be SL players. It wasn't our strongest team, but it was full of players claiming to be worth an SL chance. It's not Lowes' fault they played like soiled underpants.'"
You seem to forget that at least 10 of the players who played will be in the team next week!
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| Some of those players also beat a SL side a few weeks ago. All that matters now is the result next Sat. Today was a distraction that given the choice we could have done without. Always disappointing to concede so many at home but it really has no bearing on next week.
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| Can safely say if we win next Saturday afternoon then no one will care about today
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| Quote ="zapperbull"You seem to forget that at least 10 of the players who played will be in the team next week!'"
You're right. I now realize that it was practically our strongest team ever, and I'm mad.
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| Spoke to a few people today and I reckon it was 50/50 on whether we should of played a full strength team. I think Lowes was right in resting as many players as he did, but that was a full time championship team against a part time championship team. Full credit to Halifax
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| Quote ="Halifax1989"Whats Bulls fans opinions of fielding a weakened team today? As a fax fan I was amazed Lowes didnt want to play for home advantage for the big one.
Best of luck next week'"
Any chance of a home game next week we had to be winning by a clear 60 point margin. Was that going too happen highly unlikely. So why risk key injuries in impossible task.
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| Or, more realistically, a sheffield win...
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| I also thought it was a pointless game and next week matters so I would have dropped nearly all players for next week to keep them safe. I have consistently said all year that the main season is relatively pointless as we were always going to get into the top four. I have also said it will all come down to Leigh or us playing Wakey - which it has. So I have no problem there.
What annoys me though is the total lack of effort and enthusiasm of the players who had a good chance to get a spot next week - do they feel they had a chance or do they think Jimmy has his 17 and that is it whatever they did today. Why try when you know you are either guaranteed in or certain not to be selected.
Yes it meant nothing today but don't be blinded to the fact that players who should have been busting a gut today were totally lethargic. Why were they like this yet again. It wasn't just today. It has happened many, many times. A win next week covers it all up.
We on here can discuss this all week but I would like to see Mr Green's face if we don't go up and someone points out all of the awful performances we have put in and asks some questions about quality of signings and poor performances.
If we win next week I am sure some will point out to me that all of those games didn't matter.
If we lose then all of those poor games did matter as we just couldn't switch it on when it mattered.
As far as these play-offs are concerned. it was a 7 game competition and 4 of the games have gone:
Wakey - 48:18
Widnes - 12:56
KR - 38:4
Fax - 18:52
Out of 7 games and we still get into the £1m game. I don't accept it is just about impossible to get promotion. Play cr*p and you still get a chance.
If only Jimmy and Ferres could sign 25 players who give their best and Jimmy gets them up for a game then it is effectively a one game competition. We have tried our best not to get into next weeks game but still find ourselves there because the other 3 Ch. clubs were worse than us. It is very possible to beat Wakey but we have to play at our best and that is the problem as Jimmy has a problem getting them to do this.
Having said this, I do expect us to beat Wakey but if we don't I doubt I will buy a ST for all of those poor games again next year - and am concerned I won't be the only one which is a shame after 40 years as a Northern fan.
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| It was clear to see that the team weren't bothered about the result as we've got a much more important game next weekend. I'd say that 4 or 5 of the players playing today will make it into the squad for next week. All you had to do was look at the bench at full time and see how many key players we had taking a weekend off.
Halifax deserved the win and played some really good rugby in the second half. They had some fantastic breaks against a tired and lethargic Bulls defence.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Any chance of a home game next week we had to be winning by a clear 60 point margin. Was that going too happen highly unlikely. So why risk key injuries in impossible task.'"
I CAN ACCEPT DEFEAT, BUT I CAN'T ACCEPT NOT TRYING.
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| I've only just watched the match and thank you very much, it was so much a depleted squad and it was worth more to fax than to the Bulls.
As a fax fan I honestly wish you the greatest of luck next week, show the superleague clubs what it's all about.
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| Cannot say anything more really than HAPPY DAYS, beating you lot on your own pitch by that score line no matter what team you put out means so much to us long suffering Fax fans who had to suffer year after year of Bull mania when you were top dogs with mass support and some came from Halifax, ugh.
To us it DID MATTER we always want to beat our bitter rivals its like your footy team beating Leeds United to many Bradfordians that is the be all and end all which beating you lot is to us!
We are much smaller than you on about a quarter of your money and part timers to boot, give us some credit please.
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| that's shocking paying to watch a depleted squad get mauled by fax, you might as well played the fans
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| I thought Baile, Fleming and Ryan did well and should be under consideration to replace Blythe, Lauaki and perhaps Mellor to push for a bench spot. Although young Alex Mellor was our top tackler. Matty Blythe is just too inconsistent at the moment and even the crowd started to turn on Epalahame Lauaki.
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| I thought Johnstone made runs we never did and wonder how the depth of our squad could be so inept when full time.Ferres needs to accept some responsibility for lack of quality imo.
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| From an increasingly disappointed Leyther - thanks a bundle to your guys! All it needs now, is for Wakefield to go through the motions today and we end up bottom!
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