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| Quote ="robin1972"hi just to point out hull krs last game is Salford at home and not Sheffield cheers'"
Sorry misspoke meant to say final is Salford and next is sheffeild, chopped and changed a bit to much.
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| Quote ="Captain Charisma"Its an odd one really - we (HKR) have been largely crap in the middle 8s, we have a couple of purple patches in games where no teams (so far) have been able to live with us, but we don't put a complete performance in. Our starting half backs are done for the season and this has had a big impact on our attack I feel. Against Wakey we had plenty of ball in good positions, but in the end, we scored two speculative, length of the pitch efforts, one dart from dummy half close to the line and one great finish in the corner from Dixon. We didn't create much and we didn't do much in the way of build pressure on the Wakefield line. Really, they probably should have beaten us.
I don't know much about Bradford and the players in your team, but I don't think you need to play expansive, super creative rugby to beat us. If you can keep the intensity up for 80 minutes and can manage to live with KR when we turn it up, you should do okay and could possibly win. We'll score tries (hopefully lots!) but we'll concede our share too and if you can manage to not drop off in the way Halifax and Leigh did, I actually fancy you to get something. Rovers don't need to win this game but Bradford do and maybe that will be a telling factor.
Having said all that, we've managed to go 4 from 4 in second gear pretty much, we are the best team in this middle 8 group and i would fully expect HKR to get the win as I am sure they want to go 7 from 7 and prove that they're too good for relegation.'"
Sounds very much like us some brilliant length of field tries but panic and struggle in the final 10m, if the bulls can come out on fire and really up for hit I think it will be close, can't see a win but a very close game will do wonders for us, similar to how leaigh did against yourselves would instil some pride back into us, and set up a cracker against leigh next week
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"It is of course possible that, playing alongside a fit and in-form Gaskell, Siejka may suddenly explode, like a rocket waiting for a flame, and rise phoenix-like from the dross of earlier games, strutting the playoff stage like a leviathan, into imperious top-class scrum half action.'"
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| T and A saying Gaskell won't play now this week. Anyone else think that is the last we have seen of him this year? Every week we float out he is hoping to be fit only to get to Thursday and find a one liner at the bottom of a T and A article saying he still isn't quite fit. Sounds he hardly had a chance last week, will we be saying same again next week?
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| You will run us close don't worry we (HKR) have not played well at all in middle8s but just do enough in patches to win games and feel this game will be no different
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| I think any club would be massively affected by the prospect of playing at Wembley and then the following let down. The players at Hull K R will be looking to show a tv audience just how good they can be and that is bad for us as it will be out of their system now.
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| Simply hoping for the best, is how I'd sum up my attitude for the game.
Logically, we can't win and of course, 'logically' we shouldn't have beaten Salford either, so I'm neither expecting anything nor ruling anything out. Since they built the new stand Rovers is nice place to visit, so I'm looking forward to good day out and not hurting [itoo[/i much on the way back....
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"T and A saying Gaskell won't play now this week. Anyone else think that is the last we have seen of him this year? Every week we float out he is hoping to be fit only to get to Thursday and find a one liner at the bottom of a T and A article saying he still isn't quite fit. Sounds he hardly had a chance last week, will we be saying same again next week?'"
TBH I'm wondering if we've seen last of Gaskell point blank. Signing Thomas who plays standoff and fullback seems odd when we're desperate for a scrum half and have Gaskell and mullaney who can play standoff already. Can't help but wonder if Gaskell will go if we don't get promoted, despite his interview to contrary.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Simply hoping for the best, is how I'd sum up my attitude for the game.
Logically, we can't win and of course, 'logically' we shouldn't have beaten Salford either, so I'm neither expecting anything nor ruling anything out. Since they built the new stand Rovers is nice place to visit, so I'm looking forward to good day out and not hurting [itoo[/i much on the way back....'"
Exactly this. I am hoping that we come out fired up, and that the team give it 80 minutes of sticking to the game plan and whatever happens giving it a real go. They exceeded the brief considerably against Salford. They did good in the first half against Widnes but it as just inexplicable how we went to pieces as the secnd half dragged on, and there was no need, nor any excuse, for stopping playing like a team and basically, whatever they say, giving up.
I am sure we will lose, but if we do so with honour and make them know they've been in a game FOR 80 MINUTES then I will be happy enough.
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| Well any slim hope I had of a victory has now gone. One change and Jimmy has decided to DROP James Clare and bring in Chev Walker...
Because he's going to bring the size and power we lacked last week.
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| Told ya they wouldn't risk Gaskell for this one
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| I don't think it's the right decision to drop Clare. Jimmy's taken a very good winger and played him out of position at fullback then kicks him into touch when he's not up to scratch? Is that how we are judging our players then? Looks like Mendeika's in line for a call up. Can't wait to find out if he plays fullback or stand off. Watch out HKR!
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| He may actually play Purtell at stand off for this one. If he does, I hope Purts has perfected his flat pass. He had enough practice in the widnes game anyway.
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| I mean I am Purts' biggest fan, but really, Purtell and Addy as SL halfbacks? You can not be serious. It's actually taking the pi55 is that
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"He may actually play Purtell at stand off for this one. If he does, I hope Purts has perfected his flat pass. He had enough practice in the widnes game anyway.
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Reckon this will be the team also. These games are crucial and to be going into this one with a centre and a loose-forward in the halves is very frustrating.
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| Whatever the team selection I think Mullaney will be operating amongst the halves in attack but I think Jimmy may have realised that you can't stick any Joe in at fullback against SL opposition. We have been able to get away with it against Championship teams but it's a different story now. I personally would have picked Clare over Caro but I think we have bigger issues than that.
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| I refuse to believe he will go into this game putting Purtell at 6.
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| Ive given Lowes benfit of the doubt but bringing Chev back who adds ZERO to our team is the one of many nails in his coffin, and if he decides to play a centre and 2nd row at HB is another, i can see another thrashimg on the cards then he will come out and say "bad day at the office blah blah, we will be ready for Leigh" (how many times have we seen similar)
Then when Leigh come and murder us which they will if we aent playing 110% of what we can do, then the same speil will come out, if he is so stead fast in his was and cant see whats smacking him in the face then he should leave, coming 2nd in a 2 horse race and fumbling though games isnt good enough, coupled with the 2nd half collapse when the going gets though, we might not be up the the standard of SL but neither are Leigh but they manage to put up more of a fight for the full 80 whereas we fall apart, think we need someone new in charge next year no matter where we are.
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| Didn't Clare go off in the second half of Widnes? Maybe injured.
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| No mention of him being injured and Ross says he has been dropped. Clare was superb at FB against Salford. OK he let the ball bounce for Mellors try which was a killer, but why does Lowes see one mistake as enough to drop certain players, yet others seem untouchable and come back instantly when they are fit (Siejka, Walker etc). We clearly lack size, yet Walshaw and Flemming can't seem to get near the squad, yet he welcomes back Walker straight away who hasn't done anything all season and quite frankly was a disgrace against Fax. We are struggling with our bench as 10 minute a game prop, a young second rower and a back aren't big enough. Sidlow and Clough can do 60-70 minutes against Championship opposition, but at SL, they can't carry us and Lowes is unfairly relying on them to do this.
I think we will get battered and Lowes will come out "he trusts this group of players" etc which is all well and good, but a lot of the players have let us down too many times in crunch games.
I think we will beat Leigh, as we'll get a response and i feel the players will want to put a record straight in that game, but then we'll get found out big time in the million pound game.
If we lose against Leigh and fail to make 5th then Lowes has to go as he has won once out of all the crunch games, thats including losses to Featherstone, Fax, Sheffield etc.
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| Yeah I think Clare has played well generally but taking him off mid game unless he's picked up a knock seems very strange.
There was a line in a recent T&A article that Walker was struggling with long term injury and was looking at retirement so maybe not everything Ross is told is 100% accurate!
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| I can see why Clare got dropped. He was pants last week.
Then again so were both our interchange props but no sing of Fleming.
Also surprised not to see Walshaw who's got to be better than Walker?
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern":3m4kklxjYeah I think Clare has played well generally but taking him off mid game unless he's picked up a knock seems very strange.
There was a line in a recent T&A article that Walker was struggling with long term injury and was looking at retirement so maybe not everything Ross is told is 100% accurate!'" or he's copped an injury, so strange it definitely was.
To be fair to Chev, he's been very variable in his performances but hasn't looked properly fit when he has played, I realise he played for Rovers and may well feel like turning out on Saturday as a kind of 'finale', but it's the wrong choice imo.
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| I am still 50-50 whether we should risk Mullaney for this game. Most of us seem to be happy with a good performance this week and concentrate on the last two games. If so, how would we feel if we get beat and lose Mullaney to another tweek of his ham string.
I would have been tempted to sit him out with Gaskell and put all of my eggs in the Leigh, Fax and hopefully a trip to Wakey basket with a full team and the biggest kick up the aris team talk that Jimmy can muster.
At the start of the season I said I would be happy to play Wakey in a one-off game for promotion. I will still take that and see this weekend as a possible injury hurdle for our very few SL quality players. Play Wakey with a fit Gaskell and Mullaney and a massively gee'd up team and I still fancy our chance of an upset.
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| Quote ="Bullseye":1wsgmmj3I can see why Clare got dropped. He was pants last week.
Then again so were both our interchange props but no sing of Fleming.
Also surprised not to see Walshaw who's got to be better than Walker?'" at this level. And Chev coming back....the mind boggles!!
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