Maybe the club should put a 'clicker' on the website, y'know updated each time anyone enters 'membership' on the till?..or is it commercially sensitive information? Then again, [ithat[/i would probably depend on whether sales were running away or a bit on the slackside..and I don't mean the one in Wibsey..

Slackside ain't in Wibsey. You're thinking of the splendidly-named Slack Bottom Road.

I suspect as you know I live in Leeds you are just talking uber localised gibberish to exclude me.

What! Slackside isn't in Wibsey!! Don't tell me it's been annexed by Bank Top so they can take all the council tax..

So where's Slackside WMC then FA? [I know it's on beacon road and about half a good stone's throw from Wibsey Park, well it is if it's still open, I've not lived around there for yonks.....oh and about half a mile from both Slack End and Slack Bottom, all of which were always regarded as being part of Wibsey when I were a lad.

I hope you're not going to tell me they've all been done away with in some PC [gone mad orgy of clearing up by the council [appellation of areas, eradication of suggestive names, sub committee, and expunged from the map?



Sorry Pumpy, these are all real names, though how they were arrived at I'm not prepared to speculate..

Well, er ... Slackside WMC is in ... Slackside. It may have been assimilated by the Borg sorry Council for ward purposes but that doesn't count. [iThey[/i would claim that Slack Bottom Road is actually in "Royds". Which is obviously equal nonsense. Meh.

Royds? Pah. They'll be calling the West Riding West Yorkshire next. Or my names not Philip Stine

'Royds' is the new name 'they' came up with for Woodside estate and some other bits, I believe it comes from Royds Hall which isn't that far from the very bottom end of the estate. Though the top end of Woodside is really in Buttershaw [which runs either side of the Halifax rd and up to around Harbour Rd/Wibsey Park Avenue, from the former Kings Head to to the Shelf border. When I was a kid and lived at the top of Woodside, Buttershaw was always part of our address. Incidentally most of the 'Buttershaw' estate isn't in Buttershaw and much of it is in Wibs.....ZZZZzzzzzz[size=85zzzz[/size

And don't get me on the subject of "East Bierley" cemetery. WTF is that all about?.

And Royds Hall is technically in Low Moor.

I guess it is really, as is the whole of the bottom end of Abb Scott Lane....It was easy, many years ago, when clear green fields lay between all these different places, but now, with the general urban sprawl which has overtaken Bradford, and to be fair all other towns and cities, it's not quite so easy to say just [iexactly[/i where the boundaries lie.

What is the last place in Bradford before you're officially a traitor for not watching Fax?

Is Shelf the main contested area?

I'm saying all this as an ignorant Leeds lad so excuse the lack of area knowledge.

Not that I'm wanting to get into the debate about Wibsey or Low Moor BUT...as my family were original Wibsonians? I can definitely confirm that Great Grandpappy Abraham lived on Wibsey Slack (or Slackside even) and his great Grandpops was married in what was Wibsey Chapel at that time ie Holy Trinity Low Moor which of course was part of Wibsey,,,see the Chapel House pub so named after Wibsey Chapel.
It's gonna be a long closed season what with local history and click counting season tickets??? think I'll go lie in the darkened room now!

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so I guess, a bit like Pudsey, there are many mixed and cross allegiances. I know Fax, or at least their fans, moaned about the Bulls targetting the Shelf area with match adverts but it's not much over a couple of miles from Odsal, at the end of the day.

I always felt Shelf roundabout was the boundary, pretty much running from the lights at Queensbury, through Hipperholme with Brighouse being the border with Huddersfield. I've no idea whether this corresponds to any real boundary or whether it is some kind of ancestral thing like Palestine pre-six day war.

Having thought about I believe Bailiff Bridge and Northowram were given to us by God. There!

Shelf roundabout [ Stone Chairis quite near the boundary between Shelf and Halifax, though both are in Calderdale, of course. The Shelf/ Bradford boundary is actually a stream which flows under the main Bfd/ Hx road alongside the former [now business units Dunn Ridsdale dyeworks, which is about 50 metres after the top end of the Woodside estate when travelling towards Halifax.

The stream meanders around quite a bit, at one point passing under Cooper Lane just a bit below the end of Reevy Rd, which means the bottom end is in Shelf whilst the top bit is in Bradford. I could have given you the house numbers for the boundary when I used to deliver papers around there, however my mind is now so stuffed full with rubbish I seem to have forgotten them....

Yes but they're only in "Calderdale" if you treat "Calderdale" as a legit place, it isn't, it's a purely bogus virtual admin area like "Humberside" or "Greater Manchester". When I lived in Shelf we were at the right side of Stone Chair yet had to pay council tax to "Calderdale". Well they may be able to take your money but they can't take your soul. Sob.

RIP Queensbury and Shelf UDC?

Ferres in today's T&A says we've passed the 1500 mark.

I'm still yet to get mine, I'll wait until January I think.

Anyway, as you were.

Born and bred in Northowram and would always have my passport with me if I went past Shelf roundabout. And ALWAYS a Fax supporter so no more of your rubbish.

AH, the token Fax fan from Shelf.......

TBF Northowram is [imiles[/i the wrong side of Stone Chair so it's fair do's. What I like about Northowram (and I bet Norman loves this too) is that's where they change the name of Halifax Road, which runs all the way from the wrong side of Odsal roundabout, into "BRADFORD ROAD" all the way through Northowram. They obviously couldn't stand to see the H word ...

It'll be like a daily dose of sunshine, that!

To be fair to Norm FA, I don't think there are many Bradford Roads in Bradford either...

Huddersfield is the same, if you follow Huddersfield Road to its logical conclusion you'll find it's become Bradford Road..sneaky sods, it's as if there is some cachet in linking to more famous and enlightened places.

1863rd season ticket sold yesterday. Suspect there will be a bit of a surge in sales next few weeks with people buying as Xmas presents. Not sure if we'll reach the 4k target but I expect us to comfortably get past 3k now.

Probably so mat. And let's not forget we're still in the middle of a long and lingering depression, so I'm sure there are plenty more who simply can't afford to lay out so much cash but who will pay on the gate come the start of the season. I think we'll be OK.