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| Sanctions are tougher in the championship. 9 points this time.
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| Clarification off the Bulls Facebook page
FOR all those querying which of our 2015 squad members appear on the overseas quota, are non-federation trained, club trained or 'kolpak', we have moved to clarify things for you
Our Overseas Quota players include:
Jake Mullaney (Non-Federation Trained)
Adrian Purtell (Non-Federation Trained)
Karl Davies (Non-Federation Trained)
Mark Offerdahl (Non-Federation Trained)
Adam Henry (NOT Non-Federation Trained)
Our Non-Federation Trained players include:
Harry Siejka (Not on Overseas Quota)
Etu Uaisele (Not on Overseas Quota)
Chris Ulugia (Not on Overseas Quota)
In total, we have five players (maximum) on our Overseas Quota and seven players (maximum) on our Non-Federation Trained list.
Hopefully, that clears up any concerns you may or may not have.
#BullsForever
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| Sounds to me like we need Martin to swing his boot of justice more often.
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| very nice email from Ryan btw. squad list edited to take Adam Henry out of non fed.
Anyway, now we can concentrate on the RAB sponsorship thread to see what we can do. Clearly club strategy is to get an influx of talent to match the facility, and I think its good for the recruits to see that if they go all the way that the fans could sponsor them.
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| Quote ="vbfg"Sounds to me like we need Martin to swing his boot of justice more often.'"
IMHO I thought it was a little bit rude in tone but hey, it gets results... Martin the Wild Diva!
Although now I wonder what makes Adam Henry so special! Apart from being my pet peeve of course. (Learn to tackle dammit. Martin, get Adam Henry told)
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| Oh and thanks to t'Bulls for answering the question.
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| Quote ="Stul"I can only assume that the fed trained rules apply to Kolpaks only and not to full EU passport holders.'"
We'll have a little less of that Rascism on here.
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| How does Adam Henry qualify to be NOT non-federation trained? He's over 21 and has not played here for 3 seasons. Or have these qualifiers been changed without it being publicised?
from the operational rules;
[i"Federation Trained Player’: a player who, for any 3 full Seasons efore the end of the Season in which he ceases to be eligible by age to play at Under 21 level has been on one of the Club’s register or the register of another Club being a member of the same rugby league Federation. "[/i
Although the rfl do write a bit of wriggle room in (and BTW how badly is this written? Thats one sentence that isicon_wink.gif
[iThe Board shall have the discretion to declare that a Player qualifies as a ‘Club Trained Player’ or a ‘Federation Trained Player’ notwithstanding that the player does not satisfy strictly the definition where in the Board’s absolute discretion the Board is satisfied that the player satisfies the spirit of the definition or considers that in view of the circumstances relevant to that case it is appropriate to declare that a Player qualifies as a ‘Club Trained Player’ or a ‘Federation Trained Player’ and in particular shall take into account in relation to ‘Federation Trained Player’ any time registered with a Member Club of a member organisation of the relevant Federation, and in relation to ‘Club Trained Player’ time registered on loan with a Member Club of the relevant Federation or a Member Club of a member organisation of the relevant Federation. The burden of establishing such circumstances is strictly on the individual player. [/i
I have no idea, but well done to the club for answering and well done to the people asking.
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| Quote ="vbfg"Sanctions are tougher in the championship. 9 points this time.'"
Irrelevant, if they're not applied - and the precedent for this has been set already.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"We'll have a little less of that Rascism on here.'"
I did wonder as I typed it. No trophies for me for two weeks.
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| I'm racking my brains a little here, but was Adam Henry the player that we needed a special dispensation to sign in the first place due to the number of first team games he had (or hadn't) played in the NRL?
Could it somehow be related to this? All I can think of tbh.
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| That rings a bell with me too Nothus.
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| I think the special dispensation was for his Work Permit/Visa - he had to given a 'special talent' status allowing him to work in the country. Usually players need to have played "X" amount of games at club or country level to apply.
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| Let's just hope Steve Ferres has done his homework on this!
He seems like the sort of guy who would - so I'm confident all is OK
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| Quote ="Duckman"How does Adam Henry qualify to be NOT non-federation trained? He's over 21 and has not played here for 3 seasons. Or have these qualifiers been changed without it being publicised?
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I believe this is part of the new policy whereby all clubs are getting help to unwittingly play a NFT player in excess of your NFT quota, so that you can get no penalty at all when found to have broken the rules, as someone else once got away with it. Or something like that.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"IMHO I thought it was a little bit rude in tone but hey, it gets results... Martin the Wild Diva!
Although now I wonder what makes Adam Henry so special! Apart from being my pet peeve of course. (Learn to tackle dammit. Martin, get Adam Henry told)
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yes it was a bit rude, but I did explain the first time I asked a few weeks ago that it was to prevent endless amounts of pointless discussion and conjecture, and been proved right, so this was the last straw when even more conjecture was generated by Harry apparently blowing the nonfed quota.
IIRC Adam signed but then it was not actually announced for ages, so maybe the signing date was before his birthday. and I did point out after watching his youtube highlights that the jury was out on his tackling as there weren't any.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"yes it was a bit rude, but I did explain the first time I asked a few weeks ago that it was to prevent endless amounts of pointless discussion and conjecture, and been proved right, so this was the last straw when even more conjecture was generated by Harry apparently blowing the nonfed quota.
IIRC Adam signed but then it was not actually announced for ages, so maybe the signing date was before his birthday and I did point out after watching his youtube highlights that the jury was out on his tackling as there weren't any.'"
Unless we signed him 3 yrs in advance can't see how that would have helped. He'd have had to play 3 yrs in our academy before he turned 21 to qualify as fed trained on that basis. A month or two delay in announcing signing won't have made any difference. Doesn't really matter why he's got a dispensation, apart from satisfying our curiosity. At least we know that we're ok under rules with signings as they stand and it puts speculation to bed.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Let's just hope Steve Ferres has done his homework on this!
He seems like the sort of guy who would - so I'm confident all is OK'"
That could be interpreted in two very different ways.
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"That could be interpreted in two very different ways.'"
Yeah, should have said 'all is well'
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