Alas I'm leaning more toward Smokey's argument on this one. Unless we can gain rapid promotion to SL from the championship I can see the club withering away.

I said during administration that it was a "Koukash or bust" situation since you need the backing of a millionaire with money to fritter away to survive in SL (unless you happen to be in Leeds). Green isn't that man.

I think we could survive at a push but we'd be at the lower end of SL and not ever seriously challenging for honours.

That's if we can get a good new deal to play at Odsal. If not then all bets are off. That big old place a is a millstone but we've precious few options in the city. VP might work but would need to be cheaper and as equal partners with City. I can't see that happening.

I'm optimistic - I think SpanishBob may have made a couple of valid points.

I'm encouraged to think that our income from the RFL with the parachute payment and TV money will mean we actually receive more cash compared to the last 2 seasons.

If we can somehow manage to build a competitive side that is capable of winning more games than it loses, we should see the fans coming back to watch a decent game.

Problem is, the squad needs building now otherwise all the decent championship quality players will already be signed up.

A coach with a high profile in the game might help us encourage some of the 'quality' players to sign for the Bulls rather than another top 4 championship side. The main thing is, we need to start planning now.

Completely agree.

It will be interesting to see where the team runs out next year if not Odsal.

VP - too big for Championship crowds, and probably more expensive to hire at least.

Horsfall - too small and too easy to look over the fence

Wagon Lane - too small

Ground share with the Cougars anyone

I think we'll be at Odsal but just using the main stand for many of our games. I'm not sure that's sustainable long term - I just hope we get promoted 1st time of asking!

Cougar Park won't be getting a visit from me. It may be a shortish walk for me but I won't be able to see the action on the pitch for all the chips on shoulders blocking my view.

Agree about Odsal. We may move at some time, like if div 2 starts to seem a bit permanent but I can't see it being top the agenda any time soon.

What you got against our friends from Keighley, Bullseye? Fair enough, a few get a bit chippy on the boards from time to time, [as do some Bulls'fans...but when you talk to them they're generally a fine bunch. I had to write that, btw, I know a few Cougars that I refer to as mates and I'd be deader than our chances of staying up if I didn't...

I understand that we will play from Cougar Park next year, as they offered to let us use the ground rent-free so all their fans can come every week and laugh at us.

On the subject of alternative grounds... Horsfall has a current capacity of 3500 with 1800 seats en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsfall_Stadium Wagon Lane apparently has a capacity of 4000, albeit with only 250 seats. www.pitchero.com/clubs/bradforda ... -6613.html Both would need some work, but could they be potential short-term options for the Championship?

On the subject of alternative grounds... Horsfall has a current capacity of 3500 with 1800 seats en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsfall_Stadium Wagon Lane apparently has a capacity of 4000, albeit with only 250 seats. www.pitchero.com/clubs/bradforda ... -6613.html Both would need some work, but could they be potential short-term options for the Championship?

So, we move to Wagon lane, by some miracle get promotion, and ... then what?

Move to VP when we can afford it?

We will be able to afford something sometime? Nah, can't see it ...

Doomed I tell you!

If we are not doomed, then the thing is, it's all only a few months away yet nothing whatsoever seems to be happening. It empties me with confidence.

Embrace it FA. Don’t fight it. I’m just wondering what could possibly happen next. It’s like one of those films that you watch where the plot starts off plausibly enough then goes totally OTT.

Like Dusk til Dawn.

I fully expect Odsal to be full of blood sucking vampires at any moment (though that might have been when Huddersfield were last here).

All the other clubs outside Super League survive. The Bulls are a big club and should be able to attract a greater level of support than any other club outside Super League.

They should have a bigger budget, especially with the parachute payment, and therefore attract the best players.

Not being top dogs is nothing to be scared of. Look at it as a test of character. When the going gets tough.....

You were the one saying you don't see us at Odsal, I just offered a couple of alternatives

Where would you suggest then?

Moronic trolls turn up and talk crap?

You're making the rash assumption that there is somewhere else. I don't think there is. I mean, there are places, of course, but any named or any others I can think of fall down for so many reasons that to me they just don't work. If i could think of a venue that would tick enough boxes then I would say but I can't.

If that is right then we would end up somewhere totally unsuitable and struggle to get out. Playing in front of three men and their dog at Wagon Lane won't build up a fighting fund.

Maybe the Council could build us a new ground from their share of the Odsal redevelopment. He said sarcastically.

Liar

is that a stab in the dark guess or is this for real

If Odsal is worth so much the obvious choice is to let the council get that money in and spend some of it on a new stadium for the Bulls and Park avenue. Or is that too obvious. I bet Green and some councillors have thought of it. I have been going to Odsal for 40 years and it is still a dump of a hole in the ground. Some of the new small grounds that rugby and football clubs are now getting look great. Saints cost £25m. Odsal is worth much more than that as a tip then development. Where is the problem apart from sentimental arguments?

don't think that's true is it, can't speak for other clubs but why do you think the fans have done so much work at BV

hang on akin to listed building, but the flats and the seated area are quite modern its only the hole in the ground and surrounding perimeter that is anything like yesteryear

you don't own it the RFL does

to answer the original question can you survive, yes I think you can we certainly wouldn't