Hopefully the max points deduction is a green light to tip the wink to staff and suppliers that they'll get paid and then tell the Bank and the Tax man to shove it!

Careful, i'm sure some Bradford fans are already in agreement with you.

Can the 6 pts be appealled against if new owners came in and paid debts off like in wakefield crusaders case?

They didn't give me or anyone else on here a penny. They apparently paid over 700k without an audit of the books, then a similar amount for the lease, then stood by whilst 'we' handed over another 500k which went to same way as the £1.5 million - a situation one might reasonably expect to have been avoided had the RFL sent the accountants in.

I'm not grateful. I'm appalled at the both the startling failure of governance and that the RFL are complicit in this fiasco.

Perhaps I didn't make myself as clear as I could.

My reading of the situation is that the RFL are basing the penalty on the terms of ABC's proposal, one of which will have been how they intend to deal with creditors; that will have been included in the offer they received yesterday.

If I'm right, it could suggest that they're close to agreeing a deal with ABC; the full 6 points indicates a newco is on the cards, making little or no payment to creditors and being allowed to take over the Bulls SL licence for the remainder of this franchise period.

I guess the thorny issue is the Odsal lease, which is very difficult; the RFL obfuscated themselves into a corner with their 'iconic stadia' rhetoric and as a result, ABC could find that there is very little room for negotiation on that front - if the RFL don't realise at least the purchase price, it could be a PR disaster.

Just thinking aloud really - either way up, I hope it's resolved soon; as usual, it's the fans who suffer for the failures of paid officers of both the club and the governing body.

its 6 points as going into administration occurred during the season it has nothing to do with debts owed etc wakey and crusaders were deducted 4 points as they went into administration in the off season IIRC

I think its reasonable to assume that the ABC consortium do not intend to do so. Remember, the RFL have seen their offer - and they've imposed the maximum 6 points having had sight of it yesterday

Seems pretty obvious what that means for the creditors

But what about if xyz consortium came in and bought the bulls with the intention of paying the debts off?

total cobblers. Its an automatic 6 point deduction for entering admin then RFL have discretion to reduce the penalty dependent on amount of debt repaid. Spelled out in operational rules. Crusaders and wakey going into admin in off season had nothing to do with them only getting 4 pts. Their repayment of a suitable percentage of the old companies respective debts caused the reduction in the points deductions.

Quote ="BBC"The six-point penalty is two points more than Wakefield and Crusaders were given when they went into administration and is the largest the RFL could have handed out. Bulls interim chief executive Gary Tasker said: "We expected a deduction of points by the RFL and we of course accept that penalty. We are not yet in a position to be able to offer any recompense to our creditors and as such a six-point deduction was what we expected.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18981223 This would suggest it’s relative to the proportion of debt that is to be paid off.

Quote ="BBC"The six-point penalty is two points more than Wakefield and Crusaders were given when they went into administration and is the largest the RFL could have handed out. Bulls interim chief executive Gary Tasker said: "We expected a deduction of points by the RFL and we of course accept that penalty. We are not yet in a position to be able to offer any recompense to our creditors and as such a six-point deduction was what we expected.'" www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18981223 This would suggest it’s relative to the proportion of debt that is to be paid off.

How the hell is this allowed to stay, disgusting.

And I'm sure you reposting it and helpfully underlining the offending word has really helped limit the impact.

correct. deduction starts at max 6 pts and is then reduced at RFL's discretion according to how much debt new owners payoff.

So it's my fault now, ever heard of the AUP?
I think you and the foul mouth who posted this should have a read of it instead of aiming your criticism at me.

Interesting. Which Rule?

Probably it's because the person it was directed at is a . That's my theory.

Echo the points above.

No reason to complain we knew we would get a point deduction of pos 6 points look unto the future now guys on 6 games left of the season and we are only 2 points from 8th, and we play hull kr on the 12th of august, and all being well that could be the game that defines our season.

Looking at the fixtures we seem to have played nearly all of the top 6, and with hudds on the slide along with hull fc we may pull of a couple of more shocks that will send us back into the 8, we need at least 4 wins from the 6 remaining games to more or less guarantee our pos in the 8. KR could win 4 of their games so we need to beat them at home on the 12th so they only win 3 and we overtake them.

Keep the faith guys, we pushed leeds all the way on friday if it wasnt for stupid errors they may not have scored 4 tries.

to quote Comander Quincy Taggart, from Galaxy quest:
"Never give up, Never surrender."


COYB!!!!

What is the difference between him writing it and you reposting it in terms of causing offense? Why didn't you mask the word in your quote? Read my response and you'll see I wasn't defending the original post but pointing out your stupidity in quoting it unedited. Leave it to the mods rather than getting on your high horse.

Obviously Bradford have a problem with some of their "fans", having just read the thread on the ladies train journey and the intimidating behaviour encountered I suppose I shouldn't be to shocked to see this kind of thing tolerated.

Anyone else think the timing of these announcements is engineered?

No we haven't seen an offer, yes we have seen an offer - bang! Six points.

Something makes me feel this has already all been agreed.

Yeah cos if you go to Odsal the terraces are just cammed with fellas and no ladies or kids to be seen. What with our terrible reputation of being sexist pigs.

Well if there is an XYZ consortium they are doing a good job of keeping quiet so far

The Administrator has repeatedly said that ABC are the only show in town. And despite various 'rumours' that there are other people interested, none of those supposedly interested parties appear to have made their interest known

So we are where are, I'm afraid

So is there an Operational Rule with an automatic 6 point deduction, or isn't there?

Why would they announce it today if that were true. Why not not just wait until the deal is announced?

Unless they want get this penalty, for going into administration, out of the way before announcing a further penalty, for going into liquidation.

Two on-field targets now - first priority, make the play-offs. Second, and not to be sniffed at, more wins than losses for the first time since 2008 - this goes unaffected by the points deduction.