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| Quote ="JUDGE666"Having said that...
With a 4 day turn-around and nearly half the team out injured i don't suppose we could have expected anything different? we could do with the Giants beating Hull KR on Monday to keep us in contention in the 8.'"
Pretty much agree with that. Combination of short turn round and injuries realistically made this game a bridge too far. That said I hoped we would keep margin a bit lower.
Two week rest now to regroup and hopefully get a few bodies back. If there isn't a noticeable improvement next match, especially defensively, then we need to start worrying IMO.
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| What's gales excuse for his kicking game?
Heather mills could have split the fb and winger more times than we did today.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"Having said that...
With a 4 day turn-around and nearly half the team out injured i don't suppose we could have expected anything different? we could do with the Giants beating Hull KR on Monday to keep us in contention in the 8.'" Thats not an excuse in my book for a drubbing like that.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"What's gales excuse for his kicking game?
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Apparently he's not fit and still learning the plays
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| missed the game tonight, just looked at score on t'internet....Has someone been messing around on sky sports news website or did it really say 54-0....bleeding nora, what happened?
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| No excuses, but surely a short turn around and players out and dropping like flies must be reasons to try and explain why. They must be knackered, Langley wasn't even in the squad and yet turned up so he obviously wasn't fit. We really need some numbers back, but Duffy said nobody is back for at least a month.
Having said that, Luke Gale, he doesn't look anywhere near good enough.
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| Well not many believed me over on the entertainers when I called it. But I did think Bradford would score a few which is probably why the Saints scoreline crept higher than expected.
Quote ="bewareshadows"I'll go with Saints 42 - 10 Bradford.
Although the rain may take 6 points off us.
Not going to get there tomorrow night so hopefully Ray Frenchy will be on top form.'"
Quote ="bewareshadows"In the Cas Bradford game defense went out of the window. They are going to have to back it up 4 days later. That's similar to their usual turn around at Easter.
I'm just stating that I think our defence is pretty decent and Bradford's was shocking on Monday, now they have to back up pretty quickly.'"
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| Gale has 1 good game and a bunch of poor ones. Like Briggs without the kicking game.
Ainscough tries hard but he's not a fb. Considering the number of games they've played in the positions I felt him and Platt should have been switched round.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"No excuses, but surely a short turn around and players out and dropping like flies must be reasons to try and explain why. They must be knackered, Langley wasn't even in the squad and yet turned up so he obviously wasn't fit. We really need some numbers back, but Duffy said nobody is back for at least a month.
Having said that, Luke Gale, he doesn't look anywhere near good enough.'"
Made that point before the start of the season and was slagged to bits for it.
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| Stuck with him for another year as well.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Made that point before the start of the season and was slagged to bits for it.'"
Was a fair call, I was a bit dubious to it, but I hoped he would do well. Thus far, his organisation and kicking game looks pish poor and his defence, jeeeeez. Our best games have come with BJ and Sammut and I hope we get back to that when Sammut is fit because ATM, Luke Gale just isn't doing it right.
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| Pryce was getting hammered by the bcb commentators
Was he really as bad tonight as they made out?
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| Quote ="bigchris"Stuck with him for another year as well.'"
We don't have to play him though.
Quote Pryce was getting hammered by the bcb commentators
Was he really as bad tonight as they made out?'"
That BCB fella is forever giving him jip.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Thats not an excuse in my book for a drubbing like that.'"
Its not an excuse just an observation. I did say in an earlier post it is embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Was a fair call, I was a bit dubious to it, but I hoped he would do well. Thus far, his organisation and kicking game looks pish poor and his defence, jeeeeez. Our best games have come with BJ and Sammut and I hope we get back to that when Sammut is fit because ATM, Luke Gale just isn't doing it right.'"
I agree with that. Gale is not doing it for me, some nice touches but drifts in and out of the game and his defence is awful.
Jeffries at 7 and Sammut at 6 have been our best combo half backs IMO.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"We don't have to play him though.
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Yeah we don't, but then we will have our first choice 7 on the bench and with Sammut possibly going next year there's no way it's going to happen unfortunately.
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| Utterly dreadful. Still in the 8 though. Got a feeling our points difference is going to cost us come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="bigchris"Yeah we don't, but then we will have our first choice 7 on the bench and with Sammut possibly going next year there's no way it's going to happen unfortunately.'"
He doesn't have to be our first choice 7 though, just because he wears that shirt. I imagine Potter will be likely to stick with him though. I expect him to play exactly the same with either BJ or Sammut though because his role won't change. Disappointment.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"He doesn't have to be our first choice 7 though, just because he wears that shirt. I imagine Potter will be likely to stick with him though. I expect him to play exactly the same with either BJ or Sammut though because his role won't change. Disappointment.'"
Yeah I'm well aware mate, I wouldn't have him in the team but I'm just saying I can't see it happening when Potter bought him as our first choice 7.
I got called harsh for saying he isn't good enough on here, it appears I'm certainly not the only one thinking it.
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| From Sky Sports, Mick Potter had this to say.
[i"I don't want to discredit St Helens because they were outstanding," said Potter.
"We weren't up to it and were unable to withstand the pressure. Saints did not want to give away field position and had an excellent kicking game.
"The guys are disappointed because they know they didn't perform well and need to do better.
"I know the players can do better than they did tonight. We have a fortnight's break but could do with a four-week break to get some of our injured players back."[/i
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"What's gales excuse for his kicking game?
Heather mills could have split the fb and winger more times than we did today.'"
I don't know where you got that impression from. He split them virtually every time.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't know where you got that impression from. He split them virtually every time.'"
Every kick does that with Saints as unless you hit it directly at Paul Wellens, it's several minutes before he'll arrive at the ball.
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| On average this year we lose each game by four and a half points. Done well to get to ten games to go with a 50:50 record. Now need to win all our home games and maybe at Huddersfield and/or Leeds to be sure of 8th or better. Big ask.
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| Well there wasn't a lot to take away from this game if you're a Bulls fan. We were truly woeful and were never in the contest. Our forwards struggled to make ground and just could not contain the Saints pack.
Potter tried to tighten up a weak right side by moving Whitehead to centre with Ainscough to FB to cover for the loss of Kearney, but it didn't really make any difference.
Quite why Gale opted to kick off or drop out straight to Wellens who probably has the safest hands on the field I'll never know. Still making too many needless errors like not making touch from a penalty and errors early in the tackle count. Almost every penalty we gave away resulted in a try to Saints, we just cannot afford to gift teams such position.
To be fair to this team it is the first time in quite a while where we have been totally outplayed in a SL game. I spoke at the start of the week of my fear that the injuries might eventually catch up with this side.. I think tonight that they finally did. That doesn't really excuse the manner of defeat though and the total lack of anything for the loyal supporters to shout about. I'm struggling to remember a quality Bulls attack all night and we never really looked like scoring.
On the plus side I reckon the Saints will have a decent little stadium there once they finish building it.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"
Potter tried to tighten up a weak right side by moving Whitehead to centre with Ainscough to FB to cover for the loss of Kearney, but it didn't really make any difference.
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Never going to work was it, Whitehead isn't really a strong defender. Would have been better putting Langley there and starting Manase.
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