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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Move if you dont like it. Help yourself out.'"
I smoke, I am allowed to, I will smoke where ever I want(if legal) and when I want.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"I smoke, I am allowed to, I will smoke where ever I want(if legal) and when I want.'"
Yeah but your just a c*** !!!
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Move if you dont like it. Help yourself out.'"
With respect that is my point. Move where and how many times? What you are indirectly saying seems to be is 'if you don't like smoking, lump it or don't come to odsal'
I don't think it would be so much of a drama to allocate the small triangle of terracing under the touch down for non smokers, and that way everyone is happy.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Move if you dont like it. Help yourself out.'"
Im not complaining myself im not too fussed i just go down a few steps til their done...........
All im saying its just courtesy for you to think of people around you !!!
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Theres a couple who in the last year or so have started standing by us and they chain smoke continually from the moment they get there to the moment they leave.'"
As for this in recent years it wouldnt surprise me to see chain smoking up there because it does become stressful at times
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| Quote ="hi de hi"With respect that is my point. Move where and how many times? What you are indirectly saying seems to be is 'if you don't like smoking, lump it or don't come to odsal'
I don't think it would be so much of a drama to allocate the small triangle of terracing under the touch down for non smokers, and that way everyone is happy.'"
Ok from your point of view, your saying you don't want to move because of smokers... Correct?
Ok from my point of view, why should we move because non-smokers don't want us standing there?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"With respect that is my point. Move where and how many times? What you are indirectly saying seems to be is 'if you don't like smoking, lump it or don't come to odsal'
I don't think it would be so much of a drama to allocate the small triangle of terracing under the touch down for non smokers, and that way everyone is happy.'"
In that respect tho why should the thousands of supporters that have been standing in the same place move to where they dont wanna stand, and vice versa for the smokers really ??
Youd just be going round in circles really, because if they ban smoking people might not go, and if they dont people will get annoyed with it and stop going ??
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok from your point of view, your saying you don't want to move because of smokers... Correct?
Ok from my point of view, why should we move because non-smokers don't want us standing there?'"
No i am saying i don't mind where i stand as long as there is a small section of our 21,000 capacity terrace which is for none smokers!
A section which would hold maybe 1,000 people would be ample, and is not too much to ask in this day and age. This would leave 20,000 spaces on the terrace for people to smoke themselves to death if they so wish.
Hardly an unreasonable request i would say.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok from your point of view, your saying you don't want to move because of smokers... Correct?
Ok from my point of view, why should we move because non-smokers don't want us standing there?'"
She (Im Assuming) is not saying you should stop smoking you dumb a** although i would suggest to stop smoking mens sausage
Just a suggestion to allow a section of the terrace for non-smokers
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| Quote ="hi de hi"No i am saying i don't mind where i stand as long as there is a small section of our 21,000 capacity terrace which is for none smokers!
A section which would hold maybe 1,000 people would be ample, and is not too much to ask in this day and age. This would leave 20,000 spaces on the terrace for people to smoke themselves to death if they so wish.
Hardly an unreasonable request i would say.'"
Ok look at it this way then, this 'section for non-smokers' what if smokers have been standing there for 20 years? Why should they have to move?
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok look at it this way then, this 'section for non-smokers' what if smokers have been standing there for 20 years? Why should they have to move?'"
But it's ok for me to have to move five times in one match!
You are obviously incapable of reasonable argument.
Anyhow i thought you were going back to watch Bradford City so it won't be an issue for you anyway as you will be at Valley Parade.
As i said 1,000 non smoking spaces out of a 21,000 capacity terrace hardly seems unreasonable.
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Ok look at it this way then, this 'section for non-smokers' what if smokers have been standing there for 20 years? Why should they have to move?'"
Personally in this day and age you should be banned from smoking in there due to Health & Safety
But............... Also in this day and age quite a big percentage of the population tend to smoke so its a hard rule to enforce
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| if it is nearly 1 in 4 then they don't all smoke during the game.
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| Quote ="phillgee"if it is nearly 1 in 4 then they don't all smoke during the game.'"
Ok then, well from 1 hour before K.O and all duration of the game including half time, i bet its not far off 24%
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"I wonder just how much % of the bradford crowd do actually smoke, my prediction is 23%'"
What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.'"
Who said anything about research??
I think you will find there is a slight difference between prediction and research.
Just a quick question, how many of the people you go with/talk to, at the bulls smoke?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"What research is this based on?
The fact of the matter is wherever you stand you can breath in smoke, so a small section of non smoking terracing shouldn't be a problem should it?
Or would you prefer it if i stopped attending matches as i have only been watching the Bulls since 1994.'"
Those smokers are doing their bit for the UK economy during hard times.
What are you contributing? You'll still want NHS treatment if you need it but you want to dictate where the smokers who are paying for it stand for a cig. Typical sponging Non-smokers and T-totallers
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| Is Smoking at Odsal that big of a deal? People have the freedom to enjoy a cigarette etc and i have never been that bothered by someone smoking as to want a section for them. Segregation of smokers and non smokers is not a good idea as it would mean that they would have to move which noone should be asked to. The solution is tolerate it, which you should be able to do as it is not like these people are blowing directly into your face (plus Odsal is very areated due to the lack of a roof so your discomfort should not last long.) or politiley ask them to not to blow the smoke in your area.
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| It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?
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| Quote ="JBT1991"Is Smoking at Odsal that big of a deal? People have the freedom to enjoy a cigarette etc and i have never been that bothered by someone smoking as to want a section for them. Segregation of smokers and non smokers is not a good idea as it would mean that they would have to move which noone should be asked to. The solution is tolerate it, which you should be able to do as it is not like these people are blowing directly into your face (plus Odsal is very areated due to the lack of a roof so your discomfort should not last long.) or politiley ask them to not to blow the smoke in your area.'"
Correct, when I do have a cig at odsal, I always blow the smoke up in the air, its not as if I lean over and blow it in the faces of the people in front/ to the side of me, and to be fair a lot of other smokers will do the same.
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| As a smoker, I do smoke during matches. I try not to but during some matches I find I'm puffing away alot more than usual (bulls V saints). However if I am smoking during matches, I will move away from non-smokers. I also check which way the wind is blowing my smoke and adjust either the direction I'm blowing or where I am stood if the smoke is touching anyone, smoker or not.
The law says no smoking in enclosed public spaces, which Odsal is not! However if anyone did ask me to move, hell even if they just gave me a dirty look for smoking, I'd move away. It only takes a few steps up or down to be in a more socially acceptable place to smoke.
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| Quote ="hi de hi"It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?'"
No there is no need for you to stop attending Odsal, the club needs ever member to carry on going and so does the team.
Ok then, you answer me this:
Some people dont like the smell of beer, should there be a section for non-beer likers?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"It only takes one person to be stood within a short distance to be affected, so the actual percentage of the crowd is irrelevant.
What is your answer to the situation?
Should there be a small section set aside for non smokers, or shall i stop attending, or would you prefer me to partake in passive smoking?'"
Tabbing all afternoon jeez. Buy your own!
They're not cheap you know? A packet of cigs nowadays is about 7 quid of which nearly 10 pounds goes to the treasury.
We need to smoke and booze the deficit down or we'll end up like Greece.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Well yeah they should, but there should be non smoking pubs as well'"
Now there is an idea! You should tell someone!
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| Quote ="Terrace singer"Correct, when I do have a cig at odsal, I always blow the smoke up in the air, its not as if I lean over and blow it in the faces of the people in front/ to the side of me, and to be fair a lot of other smokers will do the same.'"
Have you tried blowing it in the faces of the opposition?
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