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| when have i said im right and everybody else is wrong
i have put my opionion on here and nothing else
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| Quote ="roger daily"was dave halley not under contract
and sorry i didnt put this on the right thread for you, idiot'"
Pot, kettle, black?
As for Dave Halley his contract was up at the end of this season, and a mutual agreement was made to let him go early so he could play for another club. I seriously doubt that Michael Platt is going to walk away from another two years of his contract just because you think he's crap.
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| Quote ="roger daily"when have i said im right and everybody else is wrong
i have put my opionion on here and nothing else'"
and my opionion is if we want to be better than 9th/10th placed in the table we need better than crookes,donaldson,herbert etc etc, who at best are very very mediocre players
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| Quote ="roger daily"even before he got injured i thought he offered very little to the team, ...'"
Quote ="GB/England International ex Wigan and ex-Sydney Rooster loose forward and former GB Team Manager Phil Clarke"However (Bulls) do have two of the most exciting young back-rowers in the country ... James Donaldson is (Whitehead's) partner in the second row, whose season came to an end in May with a serious knee injury. He's only 19 and yet shows great potential.
I think that both of these players will be in with a very good chance of selection for the England squad in the 2013 World Cup.'"
And you would "get rid".
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| can somebody tell me though what he actually does thats good, cant rememebr him passing to create anything or beating a man
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| I think you are being harsh on him. He was offered scholorships by every big name in Super League, we beat them all to his signature and we should be delighted we did. As has been said he's coming back from a horrendous injury which affected his pre-season build up.
Getting rid of Donaldson would lead to me calling for the Board and Potter to be sectioned en masse. It would also make whichever SL side he chose a stronger one.....the more I think about it the more I think you're winding us up, I'm now cross with myself for biting.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"And you would "get rid".
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and is this the same phil clarke who said last year rikki sheriffe was one of the best wingers in the league
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| I'm all for getting rid provided we can actually get players who are better quality. Replacing like with like doesn't work as we've seen the past few years.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm all for getting rid provided we can actually get players who are better quality. Replacing like with like doesn't work as we've seen the past few years.'"
When have we done like with like? We have done like with inferior. Burgess with Sculthorpe. Deacon with Orford. Menzies with Sibbit. Etc. Ad infinitum.
I suppose to be fair, we have done better on some deals. Sheriffe with Raynor, etc.
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| Quote ="roger daily"and is this the same phil clarke who said last year rikki sheriffe was one of the best wingers in the league'"
Ah, so you want your own "I can slag the Bulls past and present players off one by one" thread. I see. But (and if you have working braincells you know this) Clarke's opinion was cited not as being true, or fact, but to underline how ludicrous your idea was to "get rid" of a player who, however much Clarke may or may not have hyped him, has had general high praise all round from a number of very well respected commentators.
I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your own opinion of Donaldson, I'm just telling you it's a barking opinion.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Ah, so you want your own "I can slag the Bulls past and present players off one by one" thread. I see. But (and if you have working braincells you know this) Clarke's opinion was cited not as being true, or fact, but to underline how ludicrous your idea was to "get rid" of a player who, however much Clarke may or may not have hyped him, has had general high praise all round from a number of very well respected commentators.
I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your own opinion of Donaldson, I'm just telling you it's a barking opinion.'"
what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team
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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team'"
Gotta agree. He's nothing but average IMO.
Never rated him and always boggled as to why people did and evidently still do.
But Phil Clarke, Steve Mac and Paul Medley think he's good, so that must be gospel.
Whitehead, Olbison, Addy are all streets ahead of him.
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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team'"
you really are stupid arent you ?
liek osmeone said he ca back from an injurythat could have potentially ended his career.
Paul deacon from 2006 was not as he was because he nearley DIED with his cheek fracture.
it takes b*lls to play and by the sound of you you havent touched a rugby ball in your life.
average eam ye but he is a good player.
if he was so average then i wonder why saints, warrington and wigan were after him..hmmmmm
they say theres method behind the madness but your staright up crazy mate
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Gotta agree. He's nothing but average IMO.
Never rated him and always boggled as to why people did and evidently still do.
But Phil Clarke, Steve Mac and Paul Medley think he's good, so that must be gospel.
Whitehead, Olbison, Addy are all streets ahead of him.'"
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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player ...and thats been kind to player ...'"
What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| Getting rid of Crookes when he's just starting to come good is a brilliant idea. Get rid of a teenager who still doesn't have that much SL experience yet too. No idea why you're not coaching a SL side.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| so we are on about how good a schoolboy he was and everyone was chasing him,they may well of done but can you see any of the top 8 rushing to sign him now, and please dont all be saying he would walk into any team cos he wont ,he is average,this is his 3rd season in the first team,yes he has had a bad injury but saw nothing before he got injured to suggest hes gonna be anything other than average and im afraid we have too many players who fit that bill
as for crookes,what do people see in him,he runs a few metres from acting half,granted bulls dont pass to wingers,but again hes been in first team squad for 3 years and seen absolutely nothing to suggest hes any good
and in answer to some numptys question, i have played for a lot of years at a very high standard in the national conference league, so i actually do know my stuff
if bulls wants to stay 9th and 10th these are the type of players we will be needing
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| Quote ="roger daily"and in answer to some numptys question, i have played for a lot of years at a very high standard in the national conference league, so i actually do know my stuff
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Think we all know who the biggest numpty is on this thread.
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| remember donaldson got picked against catalan cos sibbitt and langley were injured
seems mick potter thinks the same as me
not like you very knowledgable numptys on here
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You added a new persona, Mike?
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This one is not me Adey, but I dont disagree with him on this one.
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| Schoolboy and Super League are two different beasts.
Being a top schoolboy doesnt automatically mean youre going to make a top super league player.
As we have with Donno so far, he's shown nothing to suggest he has the potential to be a very good SL player.
So far it looks like the countries top talent scouts were barking up the wrong tree.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Schoolboy and Super League are two different beasts.
Being a top schoolboy doesnt automatically mean youre going to make a top super league player.
As we have with Donno so far, he's shown nothing to suggest he has the potential to be a very good SL player.
So far it looks like the countries top talent scouts were barking up the wrong tree.'"
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