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So then guys now that we have established there was 8000 real fans at the game is it slightly worrying that even with cheap tickets or even free ones there crowd is in freefall?
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You cant really criticise the crowd figure on a day like yesterday when the game was on TV
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| 3rd highest average attendace in league. yep that sure looks like crowds are in freefall.  |
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| Quote ="RBear"So then guys now that we have established there was 8000 real fans at the game is it slightly worrying that even with cheap tickets or even free ones there crowd is in freefall?'"
I'm not sure who this "we" is or how you've arrived at the 8,000 mark! You talking to yourself? |
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i am in the USA so i must be in two places at once as i hold a season ticket
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| Quote ="Stul"What percentage were having a wee, though? Less that the first half, obviously, but enough to suggest that they might be closer than 226 out.'"
No checked for that too. Ladies really don't like you opening the cubicle door do they? |
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| Quote ="mat"3rd highest average attendace in league. yep that sure looks like crowds are in freefall.
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Incorrect Bradford are top.
Top of the most amount of season ticket holders not attend the games.
So with 7558 in Odsal yesterday, How much will season tickets need to be for them to get 11,000 season ticket holders next season. I'm guess at £18, do we have any advance on £18? please. |
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. . . . see if you can catch this one  |
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Worst troll ever.
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| Quote ="RBear" I'm guess at £18, do we have any advance on £18? please.'"
He's suddenly turned Greek innit?
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| Quote ="RBear"Incorrect Bradford are top.
Top of the most amount of season ticket holders not attend the games.
So with 7558 in Odsal yesterday, How much will season tickets need to be for them to get 11,000 season ticket holders next season. I'm guess at £18, do we have any advance on £18? please.'"
There was definitely 12998 there. I admit I might be a bit out I couldn't check the disabled toilets due to me needing to make a quick getaway after checking the ladies. |
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So, what the OP is suggesting is, because it's Bradford we should only count the actual number of people in the ground for our attendances? Rather than do it the traditional way that EVERY other club in EVERY other sport does it and count your season tickets as part of your attendance on the day.
It must be so terrible to be so petty and small minded.
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Rbear's most actively used forum - Keighley Cougars.
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I clocked that aswell which is why I didn't bother getting involved. No point kicking a man when he's down.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"So, what the OP is suggesting is, because it's Bradford we should only count the actual number of people in the ground for our attendances? Rather than do it the traditional way that EVERY other club in EVERY other sport does it and count your season tickets as part of your attendance on the day.
It must be so terrible to be so petty and small minded.'" please can you name some clubs as I don't know any? Philip couldn't name any either. |
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Rbear's most actively used forum - Keighley Cougars.'"
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Bulls averaging 14k and looking at the fixture list, likely to average just under 14k.
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Quote ="RBear"please can you name some clubs as I don't know any? Philip couldn't name any either.'"
I know you're trolling but its an interesting topic anyway.
I won't list each one but I think you can safely start with every professional sports organisation in North America;
[urlhttp://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance-figures-speak-lies/[/url
I was at a Duke university Basketball game where the announcer announced the attendance figure as "[itonights [upaid [/uattendance is... (about 9k IIRC BTW)[/i" I also know the MLB and NFL games I've been too did this too.
And as for, say, the premier league I don't know if its as wide spread as in the US but I'd guess its heading that way;
"[iModern day attendances are based on the number of tickets sold as opposed to the number of bums on seats which means the figures released are not a true reflection of the number of people in each ground.
Frustrating for the anoraks, but the easiest way for clubs to calculate attendances. The fact is, unless a few thousand season ticket holders decide not to turn up - which in itself is unlikely - attendance figures released will always be close to actual total.
For example, at Arsenal's Emirates stadium, the attendance figure released to the public reflects the number of tickets sold for each individual game. However, the club also count the number of people who walk through the turnstiles and record the figure for their own private records. [/i"
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1PGOjapYC
This practice being right or wrong is a fair discussion point, the fact that it happens all over the world is not. |
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Quote ="RBear"please can you name some clubs as I don't know any? Philip couldn't name any either.'"
I know you're trolling but its an interesting topic anyway.
I won't list each one but I think you can safely start with every professional sports organisation in North America;
[urlhttp://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance-figures-speak-lies/[/url
I was at a Duke university Basketball game where the announcer announced the attendance figure as "[itonights [upaid [/uattendance is... (about 9k IIRC BTW)[/i" I also know the MLB and NFL games I've been too did this too.
And as for, say, the premier league I don't know if its as wide spread as in the US but I'd guess its heading that way;
"[iModern day attendances are based on the number of tickets sold as opposed to the number of bums on seats which means the figures released are not a true reflection of the number of people in each ground.
Frustrating for the anoraks, but the easiest way for clubs to calculate attendances. The fact is, unless a few thousand season ticket holders decide not to turn up - which in itself is unlikely - attendance figures released will always be close to actual total.
For example, at Arsenal's Emirates stadium, the attendance figure released to the public reflects the number of tickets sold for each individual game. However, the club also count the number of people who walk through the turnstiles and record the figure for their own private records. [/i"
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1PGOjapYC
This practice being right or wrong is a fair discussion point, the fact that it happens all over the world is not. | |
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Quote ="Duckman"I know you're trolling but its an interesting topic anyway.
I won't list each one but I think you can safely start with every professional sports organisation in North America;
[urlhttp://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance-figures-speak-lies/[/url
I was at a Duke university Basketball game where the announcer announced the attendance figure as "[itonights [upaid [/uattendance is... (about 9k IIRC BTW)[/i" I also know the MLB and NFL games I've been too did this too.
And as for, say, the premier league I don't know if its as wide spread as in the US but I'd guess its heading that way;
"[iModern day attendances are based on the number of tickets sold as opposed to the number of bums on seats which means the figures released are not a true reflection of the number of people in each ground.
Frustrating for the anoraks, but the easiest way for clubs to calculate attendances. The fact is, unless a few thousand season ticket holders decide not to turn up - which in itself is unlikely - attendance figures released will always be close to actual total.
For example, at Arsenal's Emirates stadium, the attendance figure released to the public reflects the number of tickets sold for each individual game. However, the club also count the number of people who walk through the turnstiles and record the figure for their own private records. [/i"
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1PGOjapYC
This practice being right or wrong is a fair discussion point, the fact that it happens all over the world is not.'"
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Quote ="Duckman"I know you're trolling but its an interesting topic anyway.
I won't list each one but I think you can safely start with every professional sports organisation in North America;
[urlhttp://blogs.forbes.com/sportsmoney/2011/05/25/how-sports-attendance-figures-speak-lies/[/url
I was at a Duke university Basketball game where the announcer announced the attendance figure as "[itonights [upaid [/uattendance is... (about 9k IIRC BTW)[/i" I also know the MLB and NFL games I've been too did this too.
And as for, say, the premier league I don't know if its as wide spread as in the US but I'd guess its heading that way;
"[iModern day attendances are based on the number of tickets sold as opposed to the number of bums on seats which means the figures released are not a true reflection of the number of people in each ground.
Frustrating for the anoraks, but the easiest way for clubs to calculate attendances. The fact is, unless a few thousand season ticket holders decide not to turn up - which in itself is unlikely - attendance figures released will always be close to actual total.
For example, at Arsenal's Emirates stadium, the attendance figure released to the public reflects the number of tickets sold for each individual game. However, the club also count the number of people who walk through the turnstiles and record the figure for their own private records. [/i"
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1PGOjapYC
This practice being right or wrong is a fair discussion point, the fact that it happens all over the world is not.'"
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| Quote ="RBear"please can you name some clubs as I don't know any? Philip couldn't name any either.'"
Well lets see
Warrington Wolves
Huddersfield Giants
Wigan Warriors
St Helens
Cataland Dragons
Leeds Rhinos
Castleford Tigers
Hull FC
Salford City Reds
Hull KR
Harlequins RL
Wakefield Wildcats
Crusaders RL
Every club in the Championship and Championship 1
They all do it. Not good enough? Well then we've got
Manchester Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Manchester City
Arsenal
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| Quote ="RBear"please can you name some clubs as I don't know any? Philip couldn't name any either.'"
I bet if keighley had season tickets, they would count them too |
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Count them??
If either of them doesn't turn up they hold up the match while they send someone out to see where they are................ |
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I expect that the sponsors and advertisers will want to know how many actually turn up.
It was always likely that actual attendances would be less than the number of tickets sold. I know 10 people who have bought season tickets. Four of them either live 100+ miles away and/or often work weekends. They were never going to be able to get to every match but will undoubtedly attend many more matches than they would have without this initiative.
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