Well, it will be for you. All we would need is a rematch of our match plus the Wigan derby at the DW (minus the forward pass try). That'd do us.

Ah, I see. So you are only on for selective re-matching?

More ON TOPIC - why is it when Lynch took Gaskell out the penalty was not given where the offence occured but instead where the ball ended up ????

This in fairness maybe the rule, but for example when a player ie. Wilkin on Herbert, if this would of been a penalty it would of been where Herbert was taken out and not where the ball lands, i only use wilkin/herbert as an example BUT... where last shots occur in most games the penalty is where the kicker was ???

Im confused !!!

Are you sure he broke a rule? I don't think a ref can do that.

More ON TOPIC - why is it when Lynch took Gaskell out the penalty was not given where the offence occured but instead where the ball ended up ????

This in fairness maybe the rule, but for example when a player ie. Wilkin on Herbert, if this would of been a penalty it would of been where Herbert was taken out and not where the ball lands, i only use wilkin/herbert as an example BUT... where last shots occur in most games the penalty is where the kicker was ???

Im confused !!!

No, if a penalty had been given for the tackle on Herbert, it would have been taken from where the ball landed.

That would ahve been good if it had ended up in the stands.

Still doesnt make sense for that ruling especially if he kicks it a good 60metres

Im sure that doesnt always happen tho - im still confused but not hard ha ha

The rule is that on the sixth tackle the ball will be given to the other side. That isn't the wording of the rule, obviously, because it isn't technical enough. But the six tackle rule is a [irule[/i. By giving seven tackles, he broke a rule.

I wonder if there would be a legal case to challenge the validity of the match based upon that broken rule? Rhetorical question, obviously, but nontheless it would be interesting (in a low grade way) to find out whether there would be a case.

Like a previous post that would be like opening up a can of worms for every single game where the official has made a decisive error !!

I am sure only players can break the 6 tackle rule. Officials can cock up.

show me where it says the ref has to count out the tackles in numerical sequence

It does not, but the ref has to officiate the rule, ie has to give a penalty for a 7th play the ball.

I'm sure in days of yore, the gentlemen used to pass the ball over to the other side and take tea. But for as long as I can recall the official generally tells the players it's the handover and that they should give the ball over.

On the odd occasion a player will make a meal of giving the ball to the other side and a penalty will result. It's usually when said player has no clue when or where he is.

As for the invisable knock on, looked pretty clear to me when you watch the vid, without the blinkers the balls changes rotation mid flight.

I'm sure you could get a scientist to run an equation for the forces needed to change the rotation of the ball. As for the old Joynt VT. It's not a completed tackle until the ref shouts held and a penalty is only given if the player attempts to play the ball.

As it was Joynt hit the deck, just as many players do nowa days, but then had to regain his feet as no bradford player touched him. He was then tackled by the player. The ball was only played after the tackle was effected.

Nothing like digging up old talking points as compared to something that is indisputable.

Of course a re-match will never happen, but it was Diskin saying the officials influenced the match too much. Thing is what he was talking about was a correct (In most peoples minds, but still debatable decision) about gaskell being obstructed, as it was the officials where far more influential in Bradfords favour. Disallowing 2 tries and given bradford an extra tackle to lead to their first try.

Either way what is done is done. But if the obstruction is a talking point for bradford, it's was hardly the most critical influence on the game some are trying to make it to be.

I've said elsewhere I thought Potter was over stating his case saying Bradford where the better side for their 2nd half performance. The score board showed 1 penalty each. in the 2nd half. it looked pretty even to me at the time. Hardly a dominating performance.

It's in the Referee's Book of Competences, hidden behind a cupboard in a dusty corner of Red Square. I mean Red Hall. Didn't you know about it?

I thought it was a bedtime fairy tale book for the young referees for reading at night?

Which was probably why the kick was more or less where the obstruction was made; as he dabbed the ball through it probably LANDED from the kick not more than a metre from where he kicked it, and it then ran on which would have no bearing.

It is a dodgy one though because he may have just deemed it to be a simple obstruction and ignored the fact he kicked the ball.