Well, still not seen anything from the club about this.

In terms of keeping our best youngsters we have we seem to be starting to see a small trickle away. Helliwell, Wardle, possibly George Burgess to follow.

Hopefully there won't be any more to follow.

Looks as though Bullbuilder has a big job on it's hands to encourage youngsters to stay above and beyond what the club are offering.

Hopefully that will be the end of the movements out (other than those academy players deemed not required). It would be nice to think that we can get a group of players coming through the ranks together ala what happened at the Rhinos with the likes of Diskin, McGuire, Burrow, Walker, Calderwood, Walker etc...

could tate be added to that list?

Think he falls into not required bracket. With likes of whitehead,addy,donaldson,olbison already breaking through into 1st team theres a limit as to how many 2nd rowers we can keep. Fairly natural for the lower rated ones to move on to get 1st team action.

Wire have announced their first team squad numbers today and Helliwell doesn't have one, so it doesn't look like they're planning on him playing this year.

Is it confirmed that he's gone?

He'd be a big loss if he's gone! I've tacked his progress through the junior ranks and he's always been there or there abouts the best player! Shame!

The lad has definitly gone to wire no doubt about it

. yet another bradford master stroke

That from a first-post Newbie...

Anyone tried getting the story from the club? I will tomorrow.

whats that matter, about 1% of bulls fans post on here, even less with comments like that

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It matters when a new (?) poster posts something sarcastic, critical or provocative with a first post. Most people who do that are either shown by events to be trolls or other posters using another alias who you rarely see again. Unfortunately, their conduct means that anyone new who IS legit and who DOES feel sufficiently strongly about something tends to get tarred with the same brush.

Yep its my first post but its better to keep quiet and just print the truth. he signed a week ago. Wait and see i'm not wrong

What was behind the "yet another Bradford master stroke" comment?

Incidentally, Red says its likely true, and given his usually being right with academy matters that means I'm assuming it is until/unless shown otherwise. But its quit possible Sam will be able to report otherwise tomorrow. The only reason I have not asked is because I've been reluctant to pester folk who will be very busy as it is.

Was this true then or another RL fans rumour?

It is true that it is a rumour with an element of truth.

It is confirmed in the T&A article about Sculthorpe

"a lucrative offer" implies they were paying more than we were.

Hmmmm.

IMO they need to bring in something that stops the richer clubs (or more accurately the clubs with rich owners/chairmen) just stealing all the best young talent by offering them more money. With the salary cap rules as they are and young players not being limited (as far as I know), this is always going to happen.

Or at least that's the line coming from the club.

From what I saw of him he looked a top propect, especially with ball in hand, maybe not yet ready for the SL but with the amount of FBs at the club he probably saw a better chance as being Hodgson's understudy at Wire.

A line I'm inclined to believe when it comes to either Warrington or Huddersfield as it wouldn't be the first time. (For reasons I've outlined above)

I understand that it was a lot more. And the same in the case of Wardle.

In the case of wardle I've heard we offered 14k and hudds upped it to 26k. If thats accurate then think bulls were correct to let him go. 26k is a bottom end 1st team player level of salary and whilst wardle looks a decent prospect he isnt worth that much yet. We'll have a salary structure in place and once we pay one player over the odds we'll have every other one knocking on the door wanting an upgrade. In the same period we've let wardle,tate and hellewell go we've also tied o'brien down to a long deal and also whitehead after he proved himself at 1st team level. At the end off the day the club sees a lot more of these players than we do and we've got to trust the valuation the club puts on them. If other cash rich clubs are prepared to pay over the odds theres little we can do about it tbh.