He's a class fb. The NRL don't sign crap. Failed at Wigan but was playing with crap. Mathers > Hodgson, anyday.

I'm not sure about that. Hodgson is past his peak, but he's the reigning MoS and that counts for something.

obviously tony smith doesnt agree overwise why sign hodgson? and tony smith probably knows mathers strengths and weaknesses better than most.

He is more than average.Mathers is a player who players on confidence which he has at the moment.Thats why he is playing so well.At the pies Nobby and the fans shot his confidence to pieces thats why he got bombed out.For me it would be shame to him at a lower level SL club

I'm not TS. It's an opinion, i'd rather have Mathers than Hodgson.

Why not...you've got quite a few of those already. mathers is a hell of a lot better than a lot of your outside backs.

Does seem a strange decision. Whilst hodgson playing at his best is probably better than mathers at the moment, hodgson is at the back end of career and tbh hasnt looked as good this year as last whereas mathers is still improving. Wires loss is going to be another clubs gain. Can't see it being us unless he were to come as a standoff and everything I've read suggests he wants a 1st choice fullback spot.

That said it does seem a bit of a coincidence that wire announce he's leaving at end of year and hes suddenly injured and unavailable to play against us. And our local newspaper reporter is tweeting that theres going to be some good news for bulls fans next week. Maybe a case off adding 2 and 2 together and getting 5 or maybe we have gone in for mathers.

Mathers was a great player at Leeds and although at full back played as an extra stand off. He'd be a fantastic addition to the Bulls squad. I can't believe the Bulls fans are deriding him as average given what you presently have in the backs.

He could easily step in and play half back and make you a better team than you are at present and I am not so convinced that Kearney is a better full back.

Plus, he has bucketfuls of one thing your team is desperately missing, enthusiasm.

Kearney was a regular full-back in the NRL and was selected for country origin aswell. Mathers can't even get the England no.1 shirt, Kearney is a much better player.

Kearney at stand-off or SH isn't as good, maybe you're confusing Kearney at FB with Kearney in the halves??

I don't think Mathers is a poor player but I just question whether he would add enough to our squad at stand off? I haven't seen a great deal of him at 6 but the last thing we need is another 'fill in' stand off who doesn't have a very good kicking game. With limited funds, we cannot afford anymore utility players playing out of their favoured positions.

this lad is cocky, mouthy, firey and loves nothing more than winning...i have hated him at every club he has played for.

but i would love to see him bring that to our squad right now, as no one else seems interested!!!!

Plenty of enthusiasm out there tonight vs Wire but I agree Mathers would be a useful no6 for us.

as he still plays for warrington, i am still allowed to hate him...which is only compunded by this tweet from him after the game

'well it was the one of the worst games I've watched for along time but at least the boys got the points in the bag... too easy!!'

div!!

He's miles behind Kearney at Full back.

That said we need a six but for the salary he'd command we could get a better six so it's a no for me.

Watching him in his junior days at Leeds IMO he was always the better 6 than Danny boy.

IMO he'd do a very similar job to Karl Pratt. Some else we all detested till he arrived at the club and look at the job he did for us.

Well like I say, I've not seen a great deal of him at 6 but I'll trust peoples judgements who have. If he could be our 1st choice 6 then perhaps he's worth a 2 year deal because he is a decent player. Can he kick the ball though?

He's going back to Headingley.

To play what position?

Mathers wouldn't stay on at Warrington because he wanted to be first choice. Why would he want to be 2nd in line to Brent Webb?

Edit : Okay, you may have meant Leeds Carnegie

Unbelieveable thread this!

I really cannot believe some Bulls fans have labelled Mathers average and because of that don't want him!!



Firstly Mathers is far from average, he was outstanding in a Leeds jersey and many of the Leeds fans we're sad to see him go albeit we ended up getting Mr Webb. Mathers does seem to have brought some stupid errors into his game which is disappointing. However with a good coach behind him that will back him by giving him the No1 jersey he really could be a fantastic addition to your squad...

As goes for average take a look at your whole squad ffs!! Minus Beaver, Lynch and Orford your squad has average written all over it.

Kearney is a better FB than Mathers IMO. I wouldn't support the signing of Mathers to play FB for us.

Kearney, Scruton, Langley & L'Estrange are way above average.

Our young players like Whitehead and Donaldson have the potential to be way above average too.

I know I shouldn't be biting, but how can you comment when you have Ian "Mr. Average" Kirke in your squad ?

You know what comment is coming now you have called Kirke average!!!

firstly we have too many FB's to sign another, and the best in SL behind Webb and Hodgeson.

second, Mathers looked good in a strong Leeds team and okay in a strong Wire team - but he looked crap at Wigan and would be for us.

so to be honest mate the last bit of your post contradicts the first part - if we have to many average players (which, i agree with) why would we sign another?

we need a couple of class three-quaters before we can think about becoming a good side.

I do, I'm surprised we're waiting this long for it though.