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| Quote ="tigertot"As a neutral I'm staggered by the amount who think he is doing ok. He's not, he's performed terrible, his record gets worse every year. Missing the play-offs with that squad is not accpetable.
Do I think he will make a good coach? Yes, eventually. John Kear is God, but not too long ago he seemed like an apprentice vicar.
Should he have been sacked? Not for me to say without knowing the small print, but he seemed to try everything to convince Hood to give him his P45. I don't, & never have, bought the 'they can't afford to get rid' argument. I've never heard it from any other club in any sport. The only reason, IMO, is that Hood recognises unrealised genius in him.'"
And you don't have, and never have had, any detailed knowledge of the financial situation of the club or financial or other consequences of such an action (both direct and indirect). Neither have any of us. So therefore it can only ever be opinion, from anyone on here. As you have recognised by stating "IMO".
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| Quote ="Adeybull"And you don't have, and never have had, any detailed knowledge of the financial situation of the club or financial or other consequences of such an action (both direct and indirect). Neither have any of us. So therefore it can only ever be opinion, from anyone on here. As you have recognised by stating "IMO".'"
And I have never had similar information from any sports club who have ever got rid of their underperforming manager.
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| Jason Taylor got sacked today from South Sydney.
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| Quote ="tigertot"And I have never had similar information from any sports club who have ever got rid of their underperforming manager.'"
Which is hardly surprising, given that this is hardly the kind of information ever likely to be in the public domain. Is it?
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| Quote ="tigertot"As a neutral I'm staggered by the amount who think he is doing ok. He's not, he's performed terrible, his record gets worse every year. Missing the play-offs with that squad is not accpetable.'"
I'd agree with that. Several people on here have ridiculed Powell's reign as Leeds coach in the past but he never missed out on the play-offs, and the team did improve under him (admittedly it took someone else to make Leeds realise their [ifull [/ipotential).
I don't see how it is fair to blame the assistant coaches but not criticise the head coach. It would be like blaming Francis Cummins for Leeds missing out on the WCC and the CC.
Like I said on another thread, all the 'underperforming' teams this season have young British coaches. It seems that some kind of NRL experience makes Antipodean-coached SL sides better at certain technicalities - defence and the ruck area, both areas where Bradford have struggled this season IMO.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Which is hardly surprising, given that this is hardly the kind of information ever likely to be in the public domain. Is it?'"
Which is why the oft repeated view that the Bulls cannot afford to get rid of Macca is as irrelevant as mine.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio" It seems that some kind of NRL experience makes Antipodean-coached SL sides better at certain technicalities - defence and the ruck area, both areas where Bradford have struggled this season IMO.'"
I don't follow much NRL these days, but I read an analysis of a game by Craig Bellamy earlier this year. The technical detail was stunning. I don't know if it is just the level that our media reports, but I have never read or heard anything approaching it over here.
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| Should have gone mid season.
Hood claimed playoffs was acceptable. Will they be any punishment for a failure to do this. Knowing the Bulls, a contract extension.
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| Quote ="Trimalchio"I'd agree with that. Several people on here have ridiculed Powell's reign as Leeds coach in the past but he never missed out on the play-offs, and the team did improve under him (admittedly it took someone else to make Leeds realise their [ifull [/ipotential).
I don't see how it is fair to blame the assistant coaches but not criticise the head coach. It would be like blaming Francis Cummins for Leeds missing out on the WCC and the CC.
Like I said on another thread, all the 'underperforming' teams this season have young British coaches. It seems that some kind of NRL experience makes Antipodean-coached SL sides better at certain technicalities - defence and the ruck area, both areas where Bradford have struggled this season IMO.'" Nail on the head.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Nail on the head.'"
Especially when you consider that these so called "poor assistants" were recruited by McNamara in the first place. IF they are incompetent then HE is surely culpable for bringing them into the club in the first place.
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| I could understand some fans saying let him see out his contact but I can't believe there are idiots who feel he has done enough already to be offered a new contract!
He should have gone earlier in the season but I guess we're stuck with him now so none of this matters.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Especially when you consider that these so called "poor assistants" were recruited by McNamara in the first place. IF they are incompetent then HE is surely culpable for bringing them into the club in the first place.'" Also weren't these assistants at the club in 2006 and 2007 when we had semi decent seasons.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Also weren't these assistants at the club in 2006 and 2007 when we had semi decent seasons.'"
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Yeah, but surely so was McNamara?
'" I know that, but the problems of this year now seem to inexplicable placed on the shoulders of Richards and St Hilaire. Even though they were here during a moderately successful period. So if they are to blame for the problems now the must be responsible for the success then shouldn't they.
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| Quote ="redeverready"So if they are to blame for the problems now the must be responsible for the success then shouldn't they.'"
I agree, but again the same could then be said for McNamara. If he's to blame for the awful season, he was to credit for the semi decent ones?
No matter which way you look at it, the same argument can be used for both, whether you're praising or slating them.
I personally really don't know where the problem lies. It could be McNamara, could be the assistants, could be a combination of the two, or it could be something entirely different. I think 99.9% of fans don't know enough about the inner workings of the club to know where it lies. The only one who will truly know are those at the club or close enough to get accurate info from those within.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"I agree, but again the same could then be said for McNamara. If he's to blame for the awful season, he was to credit for the semi decent ones?
No matter which way you look at it, the same argument can be used for both, whether you're praising or slating them.
I personally really don't know where the problem lies. It could be McNamara, could be the assistants, could be a combination of the two, or it could be something entirely different. I think 99.9% of fans don't know enough about the inner workings of the club to know where it lies. The only one who will truly know are those at the club or close enough to get accurate info from those within.'" Never said he wasn't. The thing which I find funny now is that now things haven't gone well it's Baz and Lee's fault not Macca's.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"
I personally really don't know where the problem lies. It could be McNamara, could be the assistants, could be a combination of the two, or it could be something entirely different. I think 99.9% of fans don't know enough about the inner workings of the club to know where it lies. The only one who will truly know are those at the club or close enough to get accurate info from those within.'"
Spot on that.
I voted for "I'm not happy but understand he is the best option for the club"...([ibut with the addition[/i...at the point we're now at, in the close season, in September, already having next years recruitment plans in progress).
As we stand today IMO he should not be sacked now, but I would not have had any complaints had he gone after 10 games of last season. There have been too many unacceptable performances this season, whatever the underlying reason is. I'm not overly concerned about the in or out of playoffs thing as that is also partly due to some other teams significantly raising their game at the same time we're having a dip, its performances week to week which I pay to turn up and see which concern me - sort that and the league placing sorts itself. McNamara is ultimately responsible for the on pitch display and the bottom line is that too often over the past three years its not been good enough.
But he is the man the club is going with for next season, and I'll go with it into next season, (providing he doesn't drop any huge clangers on the recruitment front which might change my mind). His contract expires at the end of next season, and he needs to convince me during the first couple of months of next year it should be renewed, because at the moment although the situation calls for him to be our coach at the start of 2010, longer term I have no idea. I just hope he and the club can build on the positives and move us forward.
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| I wonder if we're interested in Scott Naylor? Anyone know whether he is was well respected at Salford?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I wonder if we're interested in Scott Naylor? Anyone know whether he is was well respected at Salford?'"
NOt sure, he's been an assistant at Salford a long time now though.
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| As mentioned before, he's the best young british coach
I think we let him see out his contract, he'd have to do something pretty good next year to warrant a new one though.
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| Quote ="phillgee"As mentioned before, he's the best young british coach
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| Quote ="tigertot"It's like saying Briscoe is the best looking ginner. [size=59=yellowOxymoron[/size'"
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I wonder if we're interested in Scott Naylor? Anyone know whether he is was well respected at Salford?'"
maybe as an assistant? was my first thought when I saw he was leaving salford.
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| Quote ="mat"maybe as an assistant? was my first thought when I saw he was leaving salford.'"
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"To whom?'" Steve Foulkes please.
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