I think the point of the saying is that while if you found yourself on a sinking hip you could do your level best to stop it from sinking, those that are 'ratlike' just clear off. So using it about Morrison is inappropriate at best.

Back OT, most of the decisions the Bulls have to make are in the corridor of uncertainty - they nailed the no-brainer with Lynch and now they have to pick their way through a throng of players with big pros and cons attached to them. I hope they get more right than wrong.

It has nowhere been said that we are letting him go has it?
Perhaps we have offered him a year, which woulod be reasonable giving his age/injuries, and he wants 2. So he is asking about. Seems fair enough to me.
I would be gutted to see him go, but he won't be cheap and if he is only going to play half a season due to injury, the club have to consider whether its worth it.

Some people maybe need to choose their phrases more carefully.

I apologise if I have caused any offence by the comment but it certainly was not meant to infer that Morrison was a "rat" whatsoever.

Fair enough.

Considering the bloke gives 110% in every game he plays in a Bulls shirt I don't know how you've got the cheek to call him a "rat".

Apology accepted.

I get the feeling there is only one rat on here today.

Eddie

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YEEEAAAAAHHHHH

NO chance should we keep him, he playes lest than 50% of games for the last 2 seasons(including this) and is relativley high paid. It's a complete waste of salary cap.

His body can't handle it anymore. Let him move on.

In days gone by I'd have said we should keep him on some kind of "pay as you play" deal, however with the salary cap it's too risky as we'd have to run light to accommodate the possibility of payments being made to him.

One of my better poses that one, cheers!

but we're already spending nothing like full cap this year, and looking at recruitment so far for next year we're going to be well short next year too.

that said, I don't think we can read too much into players being retained and released until we also see who else we're bringing in. If dont sign anymore or bring in a load off average players that would be poor business, but on the other hand we're bringing in some real quality in key positions to combine with the youth coming from the academy system then it puts an entirely different light on matters. Think club needs to break with normal policy and make some announcements early with regard to incoming players to try and negate some of doom and gloom thats going round though.

We need a quality half, a Hooker (L'Estrange), a Centre and tbh I wouldn't mind another forward: If we are losing Solomona, Morrison and Cook then I think we need another Second Rower. Hvaing said that, I wouldn't mind bringing in a Prop and using Hall as SR as tbh we still haven't filled the hole that Big Joe left and I think we really need to. Brent Kite anyone?

assuming we retain menzies, then think 2nd row spots can be filled by worrincy + giving game time to olbison,whitehead,donaldson and burgess when not needed in props.effectively we've been managing without solomona and morro for much of year anyway. l'estrange sounds a reasonable enough replacement for newton.
think we really need to concentrate on backs this year and bring in some real quality. A Half is an absolute priority, as even if we do retain jeffries, deacon isn't close to being worth a starting berth anymore. If we could sign a top quality half and a strike ( who can defend as well) with sykes as cover for ,fb,so then I'd be pretty happy. If we could retain jeffries as well and use deacon as further cover then I'd be even happier.

Hope we keep Morrison as a coach.

Oh go on then...I know I shouldn't really, and he HAS apologised for his latest dumb posting, but since he did it to me the other day:

i'll second that,could do with keeping him on in a coaching capacity some way or another,cann't be any worse than basil

think his visa only covers him to play, not coach, whis is reason we couldnt retain vagana in a similar role.

I am all hurt now. Really I am.

From comments at the Fans Forum, it would indeed seem we have a bit of margin.

But (and not for the first time) I'll give one big caution: don't assume that the salary cap represents the total of what the players at a club receive, or is directly comparable between clubs. It depends also very much on things like the proportion of a player's package (especially overseas ones) which a club thinks it can justify in paying in non-PAYEable form, and the ability of a player (cos it can't be the club...) to secure payment for his image rights from an "unconnected" third party. And that assumes every club has been making complete and accurate salary cap declarations, of course. Some of these matters are subject to current investigation by HMRC and the RFL, and while certain clubs are seemingly currently "bricking it" (I think was the expression used) I have it on strong authority that we are not exposed here.

Need to bear this in mind when comparing squads between clubs, and the seeming scope for additional spending.

But yes, for sure we need some positive news on the signings front to come out of the club after the events and rumour of this week.

some good points there adey. and tbf we've had solomona and tupou sidelined all season who between them will have been taking up a decent chunk of the cap whilst not contributing anything. so while it may seem as if we were well below cap this year in terms of the players on the field, when you include tupou and solo I reckon we probably only had enough free cap space for one decent player.
Next years a different matter. Whilst we've spent a bit on improved deals for halley and lynch and maybe a very slightly improved deal for sykes plus bringing in hall, when you look at some of names that its looking like we're losing then we must have enough space to bring in at least 2 or 3 quality players. whether we can afford to spend upto the cap next year given this years attendances without going into a loss making situation is another matter entirely.

Add Morro and Godwin to that for much of the season - the former won't be on peanuts. And yes, my guess is you are not far wrong.

And I find it hard to find fault the argument in your second paragraph, too.