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| Second half was much better than the first. We came out and meant business in the first half for about 10 minutes then were pretty awful but managed two good tries to Menzies to go in front just before half time.
Thought Rinaldi was much better at dummy half than Newton today. He was more disciplined and didn't seem to disappear up his own backside like Newton did.
Lynch got through a mountain of work as usual and Scruton looked enthusiastic and took some stopping. Menzies as usual was in the right place at the right time. Langley ran some good angles too for a change and Halley was steady at the back.
On the downside was our poor discipline, we gave Wakey far too many easy yards. A better side would have punished us. Deacon's kikcing out of the hand and defence was a bit suspect to say the least. Pls can we do a bit more practice on making sure we don't kick out on the full?
On the ref he was very entertaining but seemed to come up with some very odd calls. We certainly got the better of him in the second half luckily but we did give far too many penalties.
The bit of biff certainly livened things up on the terraces. More of the same please!
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| Quote ="Block5Bull"I thought both Halley and Scruton had their best games for the Bulls. Sheriffe also.
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eh i thought he was gash, at one point easier to pick ball up than drop it and he dropped it.. wonder if he was a buy one get one free..get worrincy and get sherriffe free.
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| A few thoughts of my own (apologies if this is repeating other people's, I haven't bothered to read them )
Defence. Sometimes excellent, other times god awful. It amazes me sometimes how they can defend the line so well one minute, and then leave a massive gap or miss an easy tackle the next.
Langley. Much much much better. I've been getting to the point where I didn't want him in the team anymore, but if he plays like that each week, I've no problem with him in there. He broke the line, he made yards, he actually passed the ball, including setting up both Menzies' tries. Really glad to see him play better.
Deacon. Still poor and I have no idea what's happened to him. While he's never been spectacular, he's always been dependable. He's not even that anymore and today he had another 'mare.
Rinaldi. Best game for us so far and showed why we should be at the very least keeping him until the end of the season. I'd like to see him moved to 7 when Godwin is back if Deacon hasn't got any better.
Nero. How much better is he this year? Far and away our best three-quarter this season.
If anyone could watch that match and think Halley isn't a better fullback than Platt, I'll happily call them biased.
Overall, just nice to get a win and not look like we've never played together. Some definite improvement and hopefully it will stay that way instead of the relapse that's happened after other wins.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"A few thoughts of my own (apologies if this is repeating other people's, I haven't bothered to read them
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Defence. Sometimes excellent, other times god awful. It amazes me sometimes how they can defend the line so well one minute, and then leave a massive gap or miss an easy tackle the next.
Langley. Much much much better. I've been getting to the point where I didn't want him in the team anymore, but if he plays like that each week, I've no problem with him in there. He broke the line, he made yards, he actually passed the ball, including setting up both Menzies' tries. Really glad to see him play better.
Deacon. Still poor and I have no idea what's happened to him. While he's never been spectacular, he's always been dependable. He's not even that anymore and today he had another 'mare.
Rinaldi. Best game for us so far and showed why we should be at the very least keeping him until the end of the season. I'd like to see him moved to 7 when Godwin is back if Deacon hasn't got any better.
Nero. How much better is he this year? Far and away our best three-quarter this season.
If anyone could watch that match and think Halley isn't a better fullback than Platt, I'll happily call them biased.
Overall, just nice to get a win and not look like we've never played together. Some definite improvement and hopefully it will stay that way instead of the relapse that's happened after other wins.'"
Pretty good appraisal. I thought Scruton had his best game for us - very agressive in attack and defence. The biff got the crowd going too!
As I've said before I'm a one time fan of Newton but his linking with Deacon seems to be the biggest problem with our right defence. Plus I think that game could have been won in the first half with a bit more application but at least we're heading in the right direction
Also, its a big game next so we should breeze that
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"
Rinaldi. Best game for us so far and showed why we should be at the very least keeping him until the end of the season. I'd like to see him moved to 7 when Godwin is back if Deacon hasn't got any better.'"
I'd go along with that for the remainder of the year. But I'd hope we could secure a better solution for the longer term. He'd be a good squad player but we need to recruit some genuine class and to do this we may well have to replace him.
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Nero. How much better is he this year? Far and away our best three-quarter this season.'"
Absolutely. After a slow start to his Bulls career he is showing the quality Rugby though we were all expecting from him.
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If anyone could watch that match and think Halley isn't a better fullback than Platt, I'll happily call them biased.'"
Whilst I still have a few reservations about his defensive strength, I think all things considered he is a much safer and consistent player than Platty. Certainly worth a new 2 year deal to see if he can continue to improve, but will he stay?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer":fxyfkaxjWhilst I still have a few reservations about his defensive strength, I think all things considered he is a much safer and consistent player than Platty. Certainly worth a new 2 year deal to see if he can continue to improve, but will he stay?'"
yes , I think his inclusion is worth it on kick return alone, then bring into play his new found support - much better option than Platt
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| Good game generally. An improvement of the last few weeks anyway! ( )
Was impressed with the attack, some imagination at last. Defence is still too leaky though.
Some of the refs calls were just bizarre, for both sides, its no wonder the players were getting fed up.
Rinaldi was ace today, as was Langley. Deacon was poor, why is he still getting a place, week in week out? Everything he tried today seemed to fall apart.
Not sure why Cook was dropped. He has been one of the few players who always seemed to be up for it. Instead, put Whitehead on the bench and not use him. Bizarre in any books.
Still, a wins a win.
Can we play Wakey every week please?
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| Why did it all kick off? I couldn't really see. Think Burge could be in bother, he ran about 20 yards to get stuck in.
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| On the game I thought the attitude of the players was a lot better but the overall level of the performance was just as bad IMO.
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| Quote ="debaser"Why did it all kick off? I couldn't really see. Think Burge could be in bother, he ran about 20 yards to get stuck in.
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Demetriou seemed to take exception to something, causing him and Scruton to start belting each other.
I think Burgess will be glad to know that it's an England game next week. The RFL don't usually suspend players if they're due to play an international.
Even with that though, he'll be lucky to get away with it. Running in like that usually results in some sort of punishment. Even if it was excellent
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Demetriou seemed to take exception to something, causing him and Scruton to start belting each other.
I think Burgess will be glad to know that it's an England game next week. The RFL don't usually suspend players if they're due to play an international.
Even with that though, he'll be lucky to get away with it. Running in like that usually results in some sort of punishment. Even if it was excellent
'" It seemed to all start because Ben Jefferies would let go of the ball so Demetriou was ragging him about this upset Scruton.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Demetriou seemed to take exception to something, causing him and Scruton to start belting each other.
I think Burgess will be glad to know that it's an England game next week. The RFL don't usually suspend players if they're due to play an international.
Even with that though, he'll be lucky to get away with it. Running in like that usually results in some sort of punishment. Even if it was excellent
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So if he cops a one match ban, that would rule him out of the England game but leave him free for the Warrington game?
Go on RFL, do the right thing, he was well out of order...
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| Quote ="debaser"So if he cops a one match ban, that would rule him out of the England game but leave him free for the Warrington game?'"
It's not a bad point, I'm not sure how that works.
I wonder if there's some ruling that says you can only count 1 game in a 72 hour period or something. If not, I bet one gets invented
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| Everyone ran in when the Wakefield player decided to swing a punch from nowhere when Scruton tried to pull him off Jeffries. Hard to accuse one of the many who ran in. Dumb play by Wakefield player when they'd just won a penalty.
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| Quote ="debaser"So if he cops a one match ban, that would rule him out of the England game but leave him free for the Warrington game?
Go on RFL, do the right thing, he was well out of order...
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Sadly not my friend
Hypothetically speaking, if he's banned for one game and he was already selected in the England side, then not only would he be banned from playing in that game but also the Bulls game that weekend
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Sadly not my friend
Hypothetically speaking, if he's banned for one game and he was already selected in the England side, then not only would he be banned from playing in that game but also the Bulls game that weekend'"
That went past me a little too fast on the last bend...could you clarify a bit?
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| Quote ="redeverready"It seemed to all start because Ben Jefferies would let go of the ball so Demetriou was ragging him about this upset Scruton.'"
Don't Demetriou and Jeffries own a business together or something??
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Sadly not my friend
Hypothetically speaking, if he's banned for one game and he was already selected in the England side, then not only would he be banned from playing in that game but also the Bulls game that weekend'"
How so? Would that not be two games?
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| Quote ="debaser"How so? Would that not be two games?'"
No because both the games are on the same weekend, could you imagine the re-percussions if a player was suspended for one game and missed the England game, but played the very same weekend for his club side?
So it's not a 2 game ban, just a ban for the weekend, if proved guilty of course!
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"No because both the games are on the same weekend, could you imagine the re-percussions if a player was suspended for one game and missed the England game, but played the very same weekend for his club side?
So it's not a 2 game ban, just a ban for the weekend, if proved guilty of course!'"
There would be no repercusions from me!
So a player who gets a ban from the England game would be free the weekend after? That doesn't seem fair either, it shouldn't depend when your match is scheduled for.
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| Interesting that after the Celtic defeat we had a thread twice as long by this time (not to mention several macca out ones). Now admittedly a win against Wakey at home isn't anything to organise a civic reception about.. but why is it that people are less inclined to post about a win? Perhaps it's just the British way!
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| Quote ="debaser"There would be no repercusions from me!
So a player who gets a ban from the England game would be free the weekend after? That doesn't seem fair either, it shouldn't depend when your match is scheduled for.'"
That's how RL works mate
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| Quote ="verynoble"Everyone ran in when the Wakefield player decided to swing a punch from nowhere when Scruton tried to pull him off Jeffries. Hard to accuse one of the many who ran in. Dumb play by Wakefield player when they'd just won a penalty.'"
Only problem is that Sam was the only one running in with the clear intention to take someones head off - sky sports news are about to show the highlights clips wich includes showing Sam just missing Demitriou with a haymaker on the run.
The wakey player was dumb for starting it with the first punch though., I can see them both getting some sort of ban. Got the crowd up though, maybe we should pick more fights
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| Quote ="Duckman"Only problem is that Sam was the only one running in with the clear intention to take someones head off
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I gotta agree, Sam stood out a mile as he ran in and seemed to throw a kind of diving punch. It looked awesome, but my first reaction was "he's in bother".
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"I gotta agree, Sam stood out a mile as he ran in and seemed to throw a kind of diving punch. It looked awesome, but my first reaction was "he's in bother".'"
Yep, mine too.
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