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| I don't see the point of taking a slot on the bench for Platt, who isn't going to features unless someone gets injured. As well as Menzies, who could move to the centres, I believe that I remember Langley playing in the backs before now. And didn't Worrincy sometimes play centre for Quins?
I'd start with the same 13 that played the bulk of Friday i.e Crookes for Nero. Use Solo as impact from the bench. He obviously isn't going to be fit enough to play more than 20-30 minutes. I'd have either Olbiston or Donaldson as the other person on the bench. Everyone is going to be knackered after Friday, and having a fresh young gun coming off the bench might be a real help to the pack.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Menzies is more of a 6 than Martin is and he's never played 8 or 10.'"
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Anywhere in the forwards and I would have chosen him on what I have seen in NRL.
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| I see the guys point actually, I mean, who wouldn't want Steve Menzies over Tony Martin, anywhere on the field.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"I see the guys point actually, I mean, who wouldn't want Steve Menzies over Tony Martin, anywhere on the field.'" Monday tea time, and you will see what we mean
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Prefer Martin to Menzies? You pulling my plonker??! icon_lol.gif'"
A best of Wakey v Bulls that Burgess cant get into? He isnt playing at anywhere near is best but please?
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| Quote ="kentcat"Monday tea time, and you will see what we mean
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Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. However Steve Menzies is in a different league in comparison to Tony Martin at any position on the field.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"A best of Wakey v Bulls that Burgess cant get into? He isnt playing at anywhere near is best but please?'" your dwelling on past seasons too much, we are comparing teams on this season and have to agree at the moment we are better, the league doesn't lie, yes you beat the rhino's but only just got past em by the skin of your tezzies, yes the V/R got the decisions right with the dissallowed tries but could have gone against you really easy and Leeds were miles off their best, so for the first time in a long while i'm confident we will turn your lot over on monday
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. However Steve Menzies is in a different league in comparison to Tony Martin at any position on the field.'" in past seasons hell yes but not this one, so far
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| Quote ="kentcat"in past seasons hell yes but not this one, so far
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Your basis for forming that objective judgment being...?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Your basis for forming that objective judgment being...?'" has Menzies been outstanding in every game for you this year playing out of position in a role he's never done before
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| Quote ="kentcat"has Menzies been outstanding in every game for you this year playing out of position in a role he's never done before
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He has been our consistant performer, wherever he has been played. He played 4 positions on friday according to McNamaras post match analysis.
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| Quote ="kentcat"has Menzies been outstanding in every game for you this year playing out of position in a role he's never done before
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Read Terry Monster's original post - and his rather outlandish assertion that Menzies is in a different league to Martin at any position on the field. And YOU then went and AGREED with him regarding past seasons (but not this one)!
Maybe I should have put a in there somewhere - guess I assumed you'd twig. Or maybe I should have just come out and asked you if you really meant what it looked like you meant...
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| Quote ="kentcat"in past seasons hell yes but not this one, so far
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In their whole careers.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Read Terry Monster's original post - and his rather outlandish assertion that Menzies is in a different league to Martin at any position on the field. And YOU then went and AGREED with him regarding past seasons (but not this one)!
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| Menzies is the one to watch, I would have a man to man marking him in some way just to keep him out of the game but to be truthful not sure if we have anybody that could do it, will just have to rely on your crap defense and hope we score more than you
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| Quote ="Liane"He has been our consistant performer, wherever he has been played. He played 4 positions on friday according to McNamaras post match analysis.'"
I thought that he was possibly our best too on Friday, as much as anything for how he just slotted in everywhere and some smart actions - although several like Cook Halley Jeffries and Sykes when at SO ran him close. I can see Beaver becoming increasingly influential in the side as both he and the rest of the side become more familiar with each other - earlier games how many times have we seen him looking for support which was not there? Getting less so now it appeared to me anyway.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Just comparing sides and the players in the posistions mentioned.
In bold the players i'd prefer in my side.
Matt Blaymire -- Halley
Damien Blanch -- Sheriffe
Sean Gleeson -- Sykes
Ryan Atkins -- Crookes
Aaron Murphy --Tadulala
Tony Martin --Menzies
Danny Brough --Jeffries
Oliver Wilkes -- Lynch
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Steve Snitch -- Koppy
Dale Ferguson -- Langley Looking a real prospect.
Kevin Henderson -- Cook Cant pick either hendo been poor last few yrs however this year playing much better.
Jason Demetriou -- Burgess
Probably the toughest choice ive had to make, burgess a really talented player with a huge amount of potential / future in this game. Against JD, our captain fantastic tries his heart out every game puts 100% in, has had to overcome real adversity both individually and had to be at the fore-front of the recovery from the Watene and Walker Incidents - so for wakefield (my team) id choose Demetriou, for any other burgess would be my selection.
Brad Drew -- Solomona
Danny Sculthorpe -- Scruton getting some games under his belt, getting his fitness levels up, making many yards and chances.
Jay Pitts -- Worrincy
Kyle Bibb -- Donaldson
Cant comment havent seen much of either of bradfords side, however our young players from our academy arent letting us down and tbf are playing really well.
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I get the feeling that this is slightly, just slightly, biased towards Wakefield.
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| Quote ="debaser"I get the feeling that this is slightly, just slightly, biased towards Wakefield.
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Think you could be right.
Demetriou or Burgess? Hmmmmm..........
And don't get me started on rating Martin above Menzies. I'm not saying Martin isn't a good player because I quite rate him but do to do that over Menzies is crazy.
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| Quote ="kingmonkey"Think you could be right.
Demetriou or Burgess? Hmmmmm..........
And don't get me started on rating Martin above Menzies. I'm not saying Martin isn't a good player because I quite rate him but do to do that over Menzies is crazy.'"
...as do I JD too. Different roles and responsibilities, so comparisons are a bit pointless really when not comparing like with like.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Just comparing sides and the players in the posistions mentioned.
In bold the players i'd prefer in my side.
Matt Blaymire -- Halley
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Ryan Atkins -- Crookes
Aaron Murphy --Tadulala
Tony Martin --Menzies
Danny Brough --Jeffries
Oliver Wilkes -- Lynch
Tevita Leo-Latu -- Newton (consistency and due to playing more game time)
Steve Snitch -- Koppy
Dale Ferguson -- Langley Looking a real prospect.
Kevin Henderson -- Cook Cant pick either hendo been poor last few yrs however this year playing much better.
Jason Demetriou -- Burgess
Probably the toughest choice ive had to make, burgess a really talented player with a huge amount of potential / future in this game. Against JD, our captain fantastic tries his heart out every game puts 100% in, has had to overcome real adversity both individually and had to be at the fore-front of the recovery from the Watene and Walker Incidents - so for wakefield (my team) id choose Demetriou, for any other burgess would be my selection.
Brad Drew -- Solomona
Danny Sculthorpe -- Scruton getting some games under his belt, getting his fitness levels up, making many yards and chances.
Jay Pitts -- Worrincy
Kyle Bibb -- Donaldson
Cant comment havent seen much of either of bradfords side, however our young players from our academy arent letting us down and tbf are playing really well.
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Thats the funniest thing ive read on here for ages i'll be there and i hope we murder you
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| Not even nearly funny..pre season a giant fan put that raleigh was better than menzies..now that was comedy.
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| Quote ="ritz"Not even nearly funny..pre season a giant fan put that raleigh was better than menzies..now that was comedy.'" what would you expect for shudders if we can control menzies we might have a chance, roll on monday
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| tbf its always hard for regular fans to gage the opposition , 2 days before round 1 i would be shocked to think of tony martin as the dominant player but seeing him this season i can categorically say he has every chance .
however not seeing too much of the bulls this season my judgment may be clouded , as may yours .
all we have to go on is the league table.
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| In the past when we've played the likes of Bradford, Leeds, Wigan and St Helens, i always think 'Wish i could watch him play in a Trinity shirt', but i can honestly say with possibly the exception of Burgess who is well out of sorts i wouldn't take any of you're players.
Some of your fans are still living in the past, you aren't the team you use to be. Gone are the glory days, you're just the same as the rest of the teams from 3rd - 12th. Very capable of beating of us but also just as likely to lose.
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| Who knows how it will pan out, no one can take games for granted this season or we may well come unstuck.
Heard Menzies is in good form from Bradford fans at work but not realy seen too much of him, have to say with my rose tinted on, that Brad drew will run the show and win us the game, but hey i've been wrong many times.
Lets hope for good weather and clean game and the best team to win without the refs help.
Safe journey over.
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