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| Quote ="Cibaman"It would seem to be a fairly simple task for the Bulls to issue a denial if we aren't caught up in it.'"
I know. That's one thing that's concerning me.
But it looks like the clubs have handed this issue over to the RFL to try and sort out on a global basis with HMRC. If that's the case, maybe all the clubs have agreed (or been told to agree) to keep their traps shut and close ranks so as not to prejudice those negotiations?
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| Quote ="Highlander"Would it be a simple majority vote (what constitutes a vote etc) or 2/3 majority? Can anyone remember the voting system used when the penalties for salary cap breach were increased - from 2/4/6 to 4/8/12 points a couple of years ago?'"
Dunno - it may be in the Operational Rules somewhere - if anyone fancies a trawl?
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| Wasn't this 'off shore payments' issue brought to light when St Helens 'allegedly' offered a contract to Sonny Bill Williams? I seem to remember a lot of accusations and denials at the time...about 2-3 years ago?
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| Quote ="Johnoco"Wasn't this 'off shore payments' issue brought to light when St Helens 'allegedly' offered a contract to Sonny Bill Williams? I seem to remember a lot of accusations and denials at the time...about 2-3 years ago?'"
There are a number of "off-shore issues", and they go back a lot further. Didn't someone report quite a bit ago that a certain Pie player, stated to be playing for free, was actually being paid offshore? Allegedly. Think it was in a paper and don't remember any defamation actions over it, but I may be wrong.
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| I've had an operational rules trawl - is a simple majority. The votes are divvied up with a formula depending on the proportion of SL clubs to NL clubs present so that (for example) the 14 votes of SL clubs equal the 20 votes of NL clubs. BARLA gets 3 votes. A few other organisations get a vote as well.
I don't know if they are having a purely SL discussion if they could limit the voting to the SL clubs only
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| Quote ="Highlander"I've had an operational rules trawl - is a simple majority. The votes are divvied up with a formula depending on the proportion of SL clubs to NL clubs present so that (for example) the 14 votes of SL clubs equal the 20 votes of NL clubs. BARLA gets 3 votes. A few other organisations get a vote as well.
I don't know if they are having a purely SL discussion if they could limit the voting to the SL clubs only'"
Good man!
Logically, the SL salary cap rules would only be voted on by SL clubs, you'd assume?
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And in other breaking news...
You've not checked out the link in the post I made to start this thread then?
Do keep up...
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And in other breaking news...
You've not checked out the link in the post I made to start this thread then?
Do keep up...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"And in other breaking news...
You've not checked out the link in the post I made to start this thread then?
Do keep up...
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Sorry!!!
Your apparent desperation for leeds to be involved is amusing though.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"icon_surprised.gifops:
Sorry!!!
Your apparent desperation for leeds to be involved is amusing though.
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Although if you see what I've said, I've said I'd be surprised if they are to any significant extent!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Does your information stretch to whether we as a club need to worry at all?'"
It does stretch that far and we have nothing to worry about. All the Bulls Image Rights deals are lodged with the RFL.
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| Quote ="Tiger Beer"It does stretch that far and we have nothing to worry about. All the Bulls Image Rights deals are lodged with the RFL.
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MAybe I should change my sig to Bradford ImpeccaBulls?
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| the supporters group could be named the unbearabulls?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Good man!
Logically, the SL salary cap rules would only be voted on by SL clubs, you'd assume?'"
I'm led to believe that the Championship (that's NL to most of you!) clubs decide on their own cap, so I think it's safe to assume that the same applies to SL
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| Quote ="Tiger Beer"It does stretch that far and we have nothing to worry about. All the Bulls Image Rights deals are lodged with the RFL.
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I'll believe it when Stuart denies it...
I guess the questions I'd love to have an unequivocal answer to (but don't expect to get) are:
1. Are any of the Bulls' current image rights deals with players likely to attract claims from HMRC for underpaid tax/NIC?
2. Ditto for players no longer with us;
3. Confirmation that we have not used EBTs, or if we HAVE then the RFL salary cap auditor was fully aware AND we do not envisage any tax/NIC claims from HMRC?
I't not realistically expect an answer, and if I read the situation right we are not likely to be anywhere near the forefront of clubs with worries here - if indeed we need to worry at all. Still be nice to have mind put completely at rest though! (Although I suspect that would open the floodgates for Bulls supporters to play hell with fans of certain other clubs who gave us hell for the technical and non-deliberate cap breaches...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I'll believe it when Stuart denies it...
I guess the questions I'd love to have an unequivocal answer to (but don't expect to get) are:
1. Are any of the Bulls' current image rights deals with players likely to attract claims from HMRC for underpaid tax/NIC?
2. Ditto for players no longer with us;
3. Confirmation that we have not used EBTs, or if we HAVE then the RFL salary cap auditor was fully aware AND we do not envisage any tax/NIC claims from HMRC?
I't not realistically expect an answer, and if I read the situation right we are not likely to be anywhere near the forefront of clubs with worries here - if indeed we need to worry at all. Still be nice to have mind put completely at rest though! (Although I suspect that would open the floodgates for Bulls supporters to play hell with fans of certain other clubs who gave us hell for the technical and non-deliberate cap breaches...'"
You are chris caisley and i claim my £5!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"You are chris caisley and i claim my £5!!
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You and I are going to have to have serious words, my friend!!! How dare you!!!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You and I are going to have to have serious words, my friend!!! How dare you!!!
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Nevermind the words Chris, litigate.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"Nevermind the words Chris, litigate.'"
I fear I will need to send for the 'Vark then...
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