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| Quote ="Adeybull"Quick not-very-considered first thoughts...
It was nothing like as bad as the Wigan debacle. Not that anything could be...still pretty depressing though.
We blew the game in the first 6 minutes - 0-12 at that point was always going to be a big ask. At least we matched them for points thereafter.
Our pack was probably marginally the better, although never really got on top. Their halves won them the match I think - its hard to see us making much progress with our own combination now.
Making so many errors. missed tackles, poor passes...was extremely depressing - especially when FC hardly put a foot wrong. Once again how many times were we near their line and blew it? How many times were they near OUR line and scored? Had just a few more of those moves come off, or had some of those strange ref calls gone the other way...we could have won that. But they didn't and we didn't.
In amongst, some flashes of great play which shows we CAN do it.
But why did the team spend the first half looking like they really were not up for it? Much better at times in the second half, till repeatedly we either shot ourselves in the foot or the ref's calls put paid to it.
Looking for positives, and yes there were a few signs, but (and with apologies to Winston) this is not the end of our troubles, or even the beginning of the end. Maybe its the end of the beginning? Maybe...
Huge credit for the huge and fantastic FC support - did your team and your club proud.'"
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"good assessment and think thats why HULLFC are playing so well , because we have a decent HALFBACK pairing, well we actually have halfbacks this season who can create.'"
But that can't be all of the problem. We (Wakey) have hardly had a half-back all season - yet we can still win games.
Bradford have found Jeffries out though - he goes missing, big time!
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| [url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/03/15/RUGBYL_Bradford_Quotes.htmlMacca vows to fight on, and those calling for his head can say what they want[/url
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| A missed opportunity really. Had we not started the game so badly we could've been in with a decent chance of winning this.
The start was awful, picking up where we left off versus Wigan. Sheriffe's try before half time was a good finish though and we should've come out all guns blazing. Unfortunately we didn't and we let in too many tries. Manu cause real problems for us and the Hull halves were very slick with the ball.
That's in stark contrast to Jeffries and Deacon. Their passing was abysmal at times. Our backline isn't going to set Super League alight but it's being further handicapped by the crap service it gets. Too many passes went to ground or needed taking at full stretch.
Our defence was frustrating at times, especially early on where we got caught out again on the fringes with players not knowing whether to slide in or out.
Hull didn't have to do much to win and we did tend to drag them down to our level a bit. So much so that the game was winnable at cetain stages but our pants defence put paid to any hopes. It seemed every positive thing we did had to be followed by a couple of negatives. There was no consistency in the performance.
On this form we'll get murdered on Good Friday.
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| Quote ="TRB"But that can't be all of the problem. We (Wakey) have hardly had a half-back all season - yet we can still win games.
Bradford have found Jeffries out though - he goes missing, big time!
'" Exactly the halfback's at Bradford are just another convenient excuse as we can't win games.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Exactly the halfback's at Bradford are just another convenient excuse as we can't win games.'"
Would you agree or disagree with the argument that had we had Hull's halves today we would probably have won comfortably?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"A missed opportunity really. Had we not started the game so badly we could've been in with a decent chance of winning this.
The start was awful, picking up where we left off versus Wigan. Sheriffe's try before half time was a good finish though and we should've come out all guns blazing. Unfortunately we didn't and we let in too many tries. Manu cause real problems for us and the Hull halves were very slick with the ball.
That's in stark contrast to Jeffries and Deacon. Their passing was abysmal at times. Our backline isn't going to set Super League alight but it's being further handicapped by the crap service it gets. Too many passes went to ground or needed taking at full stretch.
Our defence was frustrating at times, especially early on where we got caught out again on the fringes with players not knowing whether to slide in or out.
Hull didn't have to do much to win and we did tend to drag them down to our level a bit. So much so that the game was winnable at cetain stages but our pants defence put paid to any hopes. It seemed every positive thing we did had to be followed by a couple of negatives. There was no consistency in the performance.
On this form we'll get murdered on Good Friday.'" That's the most worrying thing Hull won with out never having to hit top gear.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/03/15/RUGBYL_Bradford_Quotes.htmlMacca vows to fight on, and those calling for his head can say what they want[/url'"
Today was the first time I heard a large number of people giving him some stick. TBH on the popular side the team got quite a good hand at the end, the supporters ire was reserved for the coach. He may well be protective of the players but it was him, not the players that got the abuse today.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Would you agree or disagree with the argument that had we had Hull's halves today we would probably have won comfortably?'" No I wouldn't say that. We would have still being playing a very limited attacking game plan that doesn't need much defending.
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| Another thing which i found strange was that, after being the best creative, attacking and freescoring forward that the world has ever seen, we have menzies almost always taking the ball up from first receiver, wtf is that all about? It is not a rle that he has ever played, why isn't he further away from the ruck, among the centres and back rowers, running at defences and doing what he does best? I presume he's playing where he's told to, but we are not utilising him to the best advantage.
In answer to the chap who rightly pointed out that Crookes got eaten, well yes he did, but people can't have it both ways, you can't keep yelling for young 'uns to be given a chance, then be surprised when they play like greenhorns. What next - call s for Mac to drop Crookes?? If the lad is to have any chance then he needs exactly that - a chance. If he gets plenty of game time I am sure he will develop. Getting skinned by Yeaman like he did is what is going to happen to a young lad at times.
In response to Bullseye, well yes we did get badly caught out for the first try, but there are times when you can't blame the team and should just stand up and applaud (as I did) amazing skills such as the two Thorman "specials", those would be scored against anybody and were rugby of the highest order.
I would also like to praise the hull FC fans, sure they're top of the table but it's still early days, yet they cam across in very large numbers.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Today was the first time I heard a large number of people giving him some stick. TBH on the popular side the team got quite a good hand at the end, the supporters ire was reserved for the coach. He may well be protective of the players but it was him, not the players that got the abuse today.'" He got a bit of stick when he came down from his box just before the end of the game.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Would you agree or disagree with the argument that had we had Hull's halves today we would probably have won comfortably?'"
We would've had a better chance of winning for sure. Winning comfortably? I don't think so, our defence was a let down.
If we had their halves and Willie Manu then probably. We're lacking crispness in the passing and somebody to break the line out wide.
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| Well, we were stood with our Hull supporting friends and to sum it up, he said thats the worse Bradford team he has seen in 15 years. I couldn't really argue...
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| Quote ="Bullseye"We would've had a better chance of winning for sure. Winning comfortably? I don't think so, our defence was a let down.
If we had their halves and Willie Manu then probably. We're lacking crispness in the passing and somebody to break the line out wide.'"
thats why we are playing better now because we have 2 decent halves.
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| Well that was an eventful day.
Personally i thought Hull always looked in control and never really had to hit top gear to beat us. Pretty depressing considering we were the home team.
Some of the defence again was awful, but personally i thought after going down 12-0 so early we panicked far too much in attack. Just needed to control the ball a bit better. The crowd were onto the team a lot more than i was expecting.
I did enjoy some moments like when platt came on a fan shouted "what you putting him on for ?!".
Nero looks like a decent centre but for me he just needs to look for the pass a bit more. Then again he was the best back for us.
You just have to wonder how McNarama ever thought this backline would produce the goods. Sheriffe looked bloody awful. Long gone are the days of at least having one world class back. The lack of pace is shocking.
AND WHERE'S THE FUDGING SUPPORT PLAY!!! It let us down on more than one occasion today.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Another thing which i found strange was that, after being the best creative, attacking and freescoring forward that the world has ever seen, we have menzies almost always taking the ball up from first receiver, wtf is that all about? It is not a rle that he has ever played, why isn't he further away from the ruck, among the centres and back rowers, running at defences and doing what he does best? I presume he's playing where he's told to, but we are not utilising him to the best advantage.
In answer to the chap who rightly pointed out that Crookes got eaten, well yes he did, but people can't have it both ways, you can't keep yelling for young 'uns to be given a chance, then be surprised when they play like greenhorns. What next - call s for Mac to drop Crookes?? If the lad is to have any chance then he needs exactly that - a chance. If he gets plenty of game time I am sure he will develop. Getting skinned by Yeaman like he did is what is going to happen to a young lad at times.
In response to Bullseye, well yes we did get badly caught out for the first try, but there are times when you can't blame the team and should just stand up and applaud (as I did) amazing skills such as the two Thorman "specials", those would be scored against anybody and were rugby of the highest order.
I would also like to praise the hull FC fans, sure they're top of the table but it's still early days, yet they cam across in very large numbers.
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Excellent point regards Crookes. The young players need exposing to the best centres in super league to help with their development.
I well remember a young Yeaman been taken to the cleaners by Martin Gleeson. Yeaman got taught a lesson that day and vowed that it would never happen again, its all part of the learning curve. Dropping him for the wrong reasons will not help the kids development.
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| Quote ="dixie"I did enjoy some moments like when platt came on a fan shouted "what you putting him on for ?!".'"
And that shout was meant to motivate Platt just how, precisely?
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| I thought it was a lot better performance today, the defence was still poor and needs work but at least we looked more inventive going forward.
The game was really lost in the first five minutes, a terrible start. That said after the first five minutes we matched Hull (top of the league don't forget) point for point and if we hadn't lost our cool a couple of times in attack we could of scored more.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"icon_rolleyes.gif And that shout was meant to motivate Platt just how, precisely?'"
Yep it's really hilarious when people do that! They are the same idiots who push to have Sykes playing full back, Sykes looked rock solid today
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| Quote ="bigchris"Yep it's really hilarious when people do that!
They are the same idiots who push to have Sykes playing full back, Sykes looked rock solid today
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Excellent point regards Crookes. The young players need exposing to the best centres in super league to help with their development.
I well remember a young Yeaman been taken to the cleaners by Martin Gleeson. Yeaman got taught a lesson that day and vowed that it would never happen again, its all part of the learning curve. Dropping him for the wrong reasons will not help the kids development.'" Crookes shouldn't have been brought off today it should have been the ineffective Sykes.
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| Quote ="debaser"Agreed, thought Sykes looked good there.'"
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| Quote ="redeverready"He got a bit of stick when he came down from his box just before the end of the game.'"
However, I want to know who the joker is who placed a certain advertising hoarding right smack in front of the Bulls bench:
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| Well it was pretty dismal once again. I was hoping to see some fire in their bellies today but I was largely disappointed.
The opening was dire and our passing was once again amateurish I'm afraid. Despite some almost comically bad passing we did manage to put together a few good tries. We're still carrying some passengers, what exactly did Deacon do today? He was almost anonymous apart from his conversions and the one decent kick for the try. Newton was again poor, although does seem to have perfected the art of giving away a cheap penalty and then making a lazy attempt at a tackle to allow the opposition to score. Surely he won't get a new contract for 2010, at times it's hard not to question his commitment.
When you have two ineffective half backs and a hooker who cannot even get back into the defensive line nevermind deliver a decent pass then you'll always end up on the losing side.
If I was McNamara I would be ringing every contact I had in the NRL to see if we can bring over a half back to bring some direction to this shambles. Has there been any further news on Witt? He'd give us the kicking game that Deacon once provided.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"However, I want to know who the joker is who placed a certain advertising hoarding right smack in front of the Bulls bench:
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