We were drastically lacking effort the same as we were drastically lacking commitment. There was very little commitment from the boys to each other to go out and win the game of rugby. Like you say, Hudds got numbers in the tackle, this shows that they were commited to winning the game. When the going got tough, very few of our players showed the effort or commitment. This is very bad.

Your not from Hull by any chance.

Banktop

Baron Greenback wrote: What was the penalty count this evening?

No idea but seen as the fat scouse scum bag had us marching back 20 metres at the play the ball and the giants scored their first try after the fat scouser waved the tackle count (which was a disgracefully bad decision) the giants did pretty well out of the ref.

And do you think maybe Huddersfield are a better side than you give them credit for?

No they are awful to loose to a team that bad at home really is the end of Macnamara. I have pretty much been someone that has been classed as a big macca supporter but after tonight that is no more. He has to go. That was crap. The giants should not make the play offs they really are terrible. So to lose to a team that bad at home is simply unacceptable as the thread title aplies enough is enough.


ooh haha thats ace you should be on stage with comedy like that ,

I went to the game as a neutral and thought Huddersfield were outstanding - bags of enthusiasm with Luke Robinson epitomising the teams attitude.

Bradford looked too big and strong in the first 20 minutes but seemed to be lacking in the halves to me and then the performance definitely began to fade. Once Deacon went off things went from bad to worse.

With great forwards like Menzies, Morrison and Burgess the Bulls had loads of go forward. As soon as the ball went out to the backs the Giants defence looked realy comfortable and hardly ever threatened.

In my opinion the Bulls desperately need a creative stand off and maybe things will improve quickly.

As a neutral I thought that Steve Ganson handled the game well and I can't recall any bad decisions to be honest.

It was dire. Again. 2 home games. 1 pt. No idea. No spark. Good defence. But I think we could camp on the oppositions try line for 80 mins and not score. I fear for us when we play Saints, Leeds, etc.
Without Morrison we would have lost by 40.
We can blame the ref if we like (yes the Hudds try was a mile forwards, etc) but that would hide our absolute deficiencies. FFS we couldnt even catch the ball from the kick off. What 4, 5 times we let it bounce? Painful. Im not sure I've ever been quite as depressed after a Bulls performance.

Very, Very dissappointed tonight. Take too long to itemise the bulls deficiences, though much was lacking in any semblance of game plan or attacking structure.
Huddersfield were not exceptional but stuck to a simple game plan and executed it efficiently as a team. Mob tackle the ball carrier and stop offloads. Quickly upto the tackle area. Pace and urgency from their own play the ball. Supporting the ball carrier.

Whilst I never considered Macca a tactical genius or extraordinary man-manager I did hope that he could kick on from some rather insipid performances last year.
He has not and this is a huge concern.

Sorry but how do you come up with good defence

Unfortunately it seems that the side is suffering the same problems that it has over the last 2 seasons, and no doubt they will get the same old response, with the same old result at the end of it.

Just the point I made in the very first post. We are no further along as a team than we were in 20076 in some respects we've gone backwards.

and yours was a knock on !!

Which one? 3 tries to one wasn't it? Sour grapes I think, with the penalty count at one stage being 12-2 in Bradfords favour I don't think you can blame Ganson for the loss.

Give over.

One of worst things today was surely the fact that the giants came to odsal and looked far classier than bradford. Our attack is just so poor in the backs. They never looked like breaking a tackle.

It was all a bit clueless to say the least.

And if i wanted to see penalty goals i'd watch union. That just showed to me how unconfident the team are at unlocking a defence. Everyone of them penalties was in a position i'd expect a home team to be looking for a try that early in a game. Poor tactics. Not bad if you win.. but what was it.. 3 tries to 1.

further back in the tackle count !!


anyway we scored another 2 so its immaterial

McNAMARA OUT !

You lost get over it and move on .

FLYINGPROP wrote: cos IMHO your squad looks a bit weak, as I keep saying we will be able to tell after 4-5 rounds, I could be way off the mark and Bradford may hammer all in front of em, then again you guys may be eating a very large slice o humble pie?

Still can't seeya winning it though


redeverready wrote: Huddersfield 9th at best. Weak squad and unproven coach.

All above posted about 2 weeks ago!!! wonder if opinions changed yet?

FLYINGPROP :Oh dear Oh dear get the plates out the Humble pie will be ready in a couple of weeks, IMO we are doing ok for a weak squad, beat 2 of those predicted to finish in top 4 and ran one very close.

Well said young man,

There looked to be no passion or desire to win the game from the majority of players in the last 20 minutes tonight, Morrison, Menzies, Tadulala Nero and Kopczack were about the only players who played with any determination.

Like a lot of people are saying, we've got a very capable pack, but no idea whatsoever how to score. We aren't conceding a lot of points, mostly due to our discipline and ability to get the fundamentals right, but we've also scored less points than everyone barring quins. We're desperately lacking any initiative or mobility in the halves, when the ball gets to Jefferies any flow just seems to stop.

McNamara has some very big problems to sort out very quickly if we're going to win games this season. If we don't see a turnaround in the next couple of weeks It's going to be another pointless season.

Quite true. I have never been a fan of Ben Jeffries. He just doesn't have that skill or little bit of extra that's needed. To be honest, I would have rather kept Iestyn Harris on a reduced contract. At least Harris knew what to do with the ball. Like you say, when Ben Jeffries recieves the ball, everything just dies. I know some people view him as a scrum half, but to me it doesn't matter where he plays because he just doesn't have that little bit extra that we are looking for. I wouldn't even consider him adequate back up.

I thought we looked more dangerous when he went off and Steve Menzies played there agaisnt Hull Kingston Rovers and I hope to god that Greg Bird wins his court cases without any charge because I can't see much going our way if we have to endure another season of Ben Jeffries..

I thought Newton was very poor tonight, he has seriously hit the wall, no ideas, lazy, slow passer of the ball, Platt, no need to explain the sooner they tear up his contract and pay him out the better, give jeffries credit for effort, he tried to create but at the end of the day, you buy wakey, you get wakey, not a champion stand off for me, Glenn Morrison needs to chill he is 150mph all the time, makes rash desicions, tonight 2 men inside him to win the game and he kicks the ball into to touch - MENTAL - Impresses wid cooky, excellent try saver, gives 100% every game, no nonsense player. Finally we have to remember Huddersfield are no poor team, the salary cap is having an effect, it's becoming a more levelled competition, predicting wins is difficult, They played well and took a lot of stick from our forwards, soaked it up and run in a couple of good tries - Halfbacks played well and i was impressed with Scott Moore, saints have more youth talent coming through there!

Thoughts?

My own personal thoughts are you have nothing at half back, we soaked 20 mins of pressure up for the 1st 20 mins of each half, you lacked go forward when Paul went off, even on the back of a 12-5 penalty count you didnt really trouble us till the last 10 mins when Robbo intercepted Morrisons inside ball and him kicking into touch later on



Didnt see Newton tackle once below the shoulders, though Burgess went well and the blonde prop who came on went well, neither of the wingers shirked work, all in all a cracking game though i think we deserved it.

Back tomorrow for the reserve game, see you then

For months I've disagreed with redeverready and mystic eddie, said we need to give the guy a chance. I've said we need some continuity with our fixtures, but tonight I lost my tether.

I see no creativity, the team looks devoid of ideas, Deacon being off the field made no difference which is a serious concern, that we don't miss our 7.

The pack were again excellent, except Newton. He's simply too slow, and we lost that game in the ruck, Newton doesn't make things happen like a Diskin or Cunningham.

The fact we look clueless near the try-line is one mans fault, and I'm personally sick of it now. l

I think Morrison realised that we needed someone to try and grab the game by the scruff of the neck and as no one else seemed willing he at least tried. Yes, he made the wrong decision but at least he was willing to try something.