not much use if backs behind them arent upto standard though.

Hargreaves only looks good in a class team. Think he would return back to his poor form shown at Wigan if he came to us.

Or, more likely, fitness is not in reality an issue, and tedious comments by the odd self-appointed anonymous expert on some BB are whatever 100 levels underneath "totally ignored" might be.

We dont need another 7, but Jamie Rooney would be an ideal partner for Deacon.

What about a class full back and a class stand-off?

Classic statement with yourselves being 1 place above Wakefield in the league.

Giver over, I'm not one to deny we've been pi*s poor this season because we have but we have generally been well above Wakey in the table and I think it's time to stop raiding their players otherwise this type of season will become a regular occurance

don't see a problem signing a player from a club below us in league. All clubs either develop youngsters who could be future stars (eg westerman) or pay big money for a superstar who wouldnt look out of place in top teams ( eg jake webster). As long as its the better players we're targeting what does it matter wether they come from saints or castleford(just as an example).

Steve Menzies - Manly
Jamie Rooney - Wakefield
Luke Burgess - Leeds
Mark Calderwood - Wigan
and a quality centre, not sure who though. Is Ashley Gibson at Leeds out of contract i reckon he would be a good signing. Willie Talau for 1 year maybe.
I also think we should get Calderwood he as been unlucky at Wigan and i know he is not very good but has pace to burn and will score tries.

I think Calderwood is a pretty good shout, gets bundled into touch easy enough but he's got pace and we are in desperate need of that although I thought it was virtually a done deal for him to go to Hull?

He was offered a contract by Leeds but asked for silly money (presumably because his opinion of himself doesn't correlate with his lack of talent other than pace).

So I'm presuming that Wigan gave him a tasty amount of money. Unless he was being touted around at a reduced wage I wouldn't touch him.

Rumour has it that he was willing to sign but Howes told him to hold out as more money was on its way if he threatened to leave. Obviously, the offer wasn't forthcoming and Calderwood ended up taking the offer from Wigan.

They all sound pretty good, Calderwood-never rated him myself but at least it would add some much needed pace. Not sure about Gibson though.

As someone else said though Calders is just about a done deal with FC. As for Gibson, he's shown glimpses of what he can offer but since the knee injury last year he's struggled to string a few games together and find some form. Won't be leaving Leeds though, IMO of course.

Dear god no if we do sign either of them then it really is time to forget about being a big club. and accept mid-table mediocrity.

Calderwood has signed for Hull FC, replacement for Matt Sing. And I really wouldn't go for Ashley Gibson, Talau however has proven himself to be a useful centre at Saints, strong running, powerful and a try scorer.

No thanks on Talau he's past it we need a younger player we need to be planning for the future.

What about Gleeson for centre if Warrington are going for Jamie Lyon?

gleeson is going to melbourne storm i think its nailed on.

It's looking more and more likely that 2009 is going to be a writr off already if the players being mentioned on here are signed. The team needs a massive influx of quality that's not going to happen with the likes of Rooney, Scruton, Calderwood and Gibson and being linked with a move. Other teams have signed quality or being linked with quality players but we get 3rd rate dross. I'll make a prediction now 2009 will see us fail to make the play offs for the first time and the average crowd will drop below 8K.

3rd rate dross? What a fool you are.

Nobody has signed nor will sign two better quality players than Sam Burgess and Steve Menzies.

We will do better next year, and crowds will be significantly better than this year.

Michael Crocker for Hull
DAnny Buderus fo Leeds

There's 2 for you and before anyone questions this sam burgess is a very good forward and will be world class in another year or 2 and menzies is too old but is still a very good player

Or alternatively why do we not go for Lyon?