Why would the RFL "hang you out to dry" when they have previously bent over backwards to help you out with Iconicgate.

Not me mate I'm delighted as it was the only realistic chance of us staying up - that and it also being the only fair and just decision that any decent person could arrive at.

Was it? So ALL clubs that go into administration have SIX points deducted? Is that what you are saying?

Do you concede that the fact the RFL had egg all over their face over firstly granting a license to a business plan with more holes in it than a piece of mozzarella, then secondly buying the lease on an iconic stadium due to a 'short term' cash flow problem might, just might, have set some people in the RFL on a course to make an example of the club! Mr. Hood and his board were the guilty party in that, subsequent people trying to clear up the mess are the one's punished. Is that not a possibility in your world?

Answering one question tells me yes/no to the conspiracy theory, namely, What prompted Moore to comment there would be no points sanction? Mr. Moore comment please?

And all clubs in admin. had 50% of their Sky money withheld and redistributed didn't they. My search engine is bust, couldn't find the links to that.

Really ticks me off when other clubs & supporters talk about fairness from a moral high ground, when it's clear to me the RFL are punishing us to an extra degree because Hood pulled the wool over their eyes twice in less than 6 months.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Anything on the unsubstantiated £1m yet?

Why did Moore & Co set up BB2014 if they had any genuine intention of purchasing OK Bulls? Let's not forget the directors of BB2014 had allegedly agreed a purchase of OK Bulls from Omar Khan, they joined as directors of the company, and then didn't proceed with the purchase upon learning of financial issues that miraculously Ryan Whitcut knew nothing about.

BB2014 them moved to buy OK Bulls from the administrator. The offer accepted by the administrator was only going to pay off what SSG was owed through it's debenture.

Agreement to purchase from the administrator, whose sole purpose is to act on behalf of creditors, was no guarantee of acceptance by the RFL to run the business going forward.

There were no other bidders or interested parties at the time, so in order to allow them to come forward, a temporary licence was given to BB2014 who, if not outbid within one month, and subject to business plan approval would become the new owners.

The administrator was prepared to accept the existing bb2014 purchase offer. After detailed discussions, the RFL didn't accept the business plan & forecasts of BB2014. BB2014 then withdrew their offer to purchase the assets from the administrator. They did this on the 24th February. The RFL then imposed a points deduction on 25th February.

Those are the facts. Anything else is hearsay and supposition.

It is a possibility but I can's see the RFL setting out to doom one of the bigger clubs in the game - it doesn't make sense. I know you're on your collective backsides at the minute, but Bradford Bulls is still one of the most recognisable brands in Super League - maybe 4th after Wigan, Leeds and Saints.

On a side note - does mozzarella have holes in it?

OK Bulls actually received the full allocation of Sky money in 2013. It got the same as every other club. The original plan was 50% over the two remaining years of the licence, with it all to be paid in the second year.

Omar Khan asked for the Sky money to be advanced so the amount of money that was scheduled for year 2, which was in effect one full years money, was handed over in year 1.

The truth is that OK Bulls had the same money as every other club, but still went under because it was so badly run by Khan & Whitcut.

When its subjected to total meltdown, yes.

Agree with that, the start of our demise was player recruitment in 2004, coupled with drop in crowds and revenue, then accelerated by Harrisgate. We needed a strong leader in 2007 to plot a course which kept us competitive but addressed the implications of Harris, which would have not had MacNamara as coach for as long as he was. Imagine how different it could have looked with someone like Potter at the helm from 2009, with the Harris finances settled and accounted for, full funding for budgets and a great crop of youngsters coming through. Makes me want to weep/want to tear some people limb from limb with where we are now. Hood's weakness and Caisley's sniping from the sidelines are where we lost the chance to rescue it.

Wouldn't disagree about how the club was run as OKBulls, enough clear evidence of that, BUT, the decision to grant them a license stipulated 50% Sky funding for 2013 and 2014, are you saying they persuaded the RFL to give full funding in 2013? That would mean 2014 zero funding right? If the RFL agreed to that, I'd love to see the business plan that that convinced them to do it

Think you're being. Tad kind with 4th best brand given the last 3 years.

And got my cheeses wrong, good spot

That's simply not true. 2013, the other clubs took the Bulls Sky money to the tune of about £1 million.

You can look it up.

The questions are many, and many of them are aimed at finding out amongst other things whether they did or they didn't. Maybe they did. If they did, then we may find out the reasons eventually, or we may not, but I don't think your question progresses anything, since while plenty of suggestions and claims have been widely made, but nobody on here is the RFL and ultimately only they could answer it.

Yep, if that's what the independent panel says - or are you the paranoid one and they have got it in for you and your the paranoid one - think about it and the point I was replying to

Q. What goes, clip clop clip clop bang bang clippety clop clippety clop clippety clop?
A. A drive-by shooting in Wakefield.

The point you replied to is that the ruling is the [uonly fair one[/u. I am asking if you think it is fair then that ALL clubs get six points for admin? Is it black and white?

It is either six points for admin or it's not surely?

And they did all that for you and yet some of your more illustious and vocal supporters still think that after all that and an independent panel sifting through what ever cig pack backs they could find in the red hall bins, that they have been hard done by.
If they (the RFL) had dealt with the club properly at the point you have illistrated you would very possibly have gone out of SL there and then, baring in mind how some supporters are acting now after an independent review of sorts how do you think that would have been received.
The fact that it was double bent from day one makes it hard for anyone to assume now everything is on the level, but you have the results from the panel to at least attempt to assure you it is.
I would imagine the RFL big wigs are wondering why on earth they threw you that life belt in the first place.
I'm sorry so many people are so upset, i would have been if i were in your shoes, hell we have more chips than Harry Ramsdens, but you have the result, now you have to move on.

My Cousin, my very own flesh and blood who is a Wakefield fan sent me a thoughtful message via Facebook. So magnanimous and humble was it that I feel I need to share it with you.

He told me that Bradford are , have no history, should just go die. Oh and all the fans are junkies.

Makes you feel all warm inside doesn't it.

I heard a rumour that when Wakefield went into admin, they were only deducted four points, and that they got to keep their full share of the sky money.

No, no, that can't be right. Because that would not be [ufair[/u, and our Wakey friends are all for fairness.

Lesson 1. We paid off some of our creditors rather than spending it on players, hence the four points.
Lesson 2. We didnt get our ground pretected by the rfl. i think if we had instead of it becoming an assett of the BoI maybe we'd have had the same treatment.
Seriously guys, youve been on thin ice for so long, sooner or later it was going to crack, concentrate on swimming to safety.

Richard Lewis > Nigel Wood.

Richard Lewis was a man who constantly put his head above the parapet to help and support our game and clubs to be the best they could be.

Nigel Wood is a buffoon who simply wants to keep hold of his job. His idea to do that is to shore up support from the lower leagues by selling them a pigeon they think is the maltese falcon, then devolve any and all responsibility from himself so no blame can be laid at his door.

Richard Lewis made sure that the game kept a major asset in Odsal. Nigel Wood has ensured a contraction of the league. Richard Lewis made sure that if Bradford went bust and Odsal was lost. Some money would come back in to the game. Nigel Wood made sure Bradford went bust. Richard Lewis made sure clubs had time and space to grow. Nigel Wood has most likely, all but destroyed one of our major clubs.

Richard Lewis is a renowned sports administrator who has chaired organisations many times larger than the RFL, like Sport England and the All England club, putting on world famous sporting events like Wimbledon.

Nigel Wood took halifax RL to the brink of destruction, now works with Ralph Rimmer. Put on a good World Cup organised in large by Sally Bolton. Promptly lost her.

Lesson 2. They got over a million pounds more in funding to start with.