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| Langley is a powerful 2nd rower, a competent loose forward and an abysmal centre (shudders). He should be able to cope with prop although I cannot remember being that impressed the once or twice he has played there before.
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| Don't think its a question of can Langley operate at prop?I like others believe he can. The question is how many games will he play in 2012? Probably not enough to be the replacement we need for Lynch..There-fore we need a replacement bringing in, hopefully one with some real quality and a a bit of mongrel..
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| I suppose the other option is to utilise Elima at Prop if/when Langley gets injured. If we intend using Walker in the 2nd row for 2012.
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| Would be funny if the replacement was Sam Burgess
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Would be funny if the replacement was Sam Burgess
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The article in League Express said that the RFL have allowed Sammut to be classed as Federation Trained but he will remain on the overseas quota.Which means we can sign an overseas player who doesn't count on the quota. For example one who has the right to a British passport through ancestry or is exempt due to having a Pacific Island passport.'" Can't quite get my head around that "on the overseas quota" bit. the BBC article covering his signing for crusaders says that he has an EU passport, in which case he cannot be overseas, and now he is a Fed trained so off both quotas. so yes we can sign a Kolpak or EU nonfed player now, or an overseas nonfed player when BJ gets his passport.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"Can't quite get my head around that "on the overseas quota" bit. the BBC article covering his signing for crusaders says that he has an EU passport, in which case he cannot be overseas, and now he is a Fed trained so off both quotas. so yes we can sign a Kolpak or EU nonfed player now, or an overseas nonfed player when BJ gets his passport.'"
Just pretty much typed what was in the article, not sure how accurate it is. The quota rules blag my head a bit, I think even the RFL make it up as they go.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The article in League Express said that the RFL have allowed Sammut to be classed as Federation Trained but he will remain on the overseas quota.Which means we can sign an overseas player who doesn't count on the quota. For example one who has the right to a British passport through ancestry or is exempt due to having a Pacific Island passport.'"
Doesn't sound correct about sammut staying on overseas quota. He wasn't on it to start with. Think LE may have got it wrong and meant to put he will revert to non fed when his dispensation expires. If he is now on overseas quota then we have six players on quota til bjs passport arrives
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| Brent Kite's a Tongan international, dose that mean he's kolpac???
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| Quote ="mat"Doesn't sound correct about sammut staying on overseas quota. He wasn't on it to start with. Think LE may have got it wrong and meant to put he will revert to non fed when his dispensation expires. If he is now on overseas quota then we have six players on quota til bjs passport arrives'"
It stated that our quota players for next year would be Kearney, L'Estrange, Purtell, Lulia and Sammut with the club confident that BJ will soon obtain an English passport to take him off quota. With the exception of Sammut the other 4 above will also count as non-fed which would leave us with one non-fed spot left.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"It stated that our quota players for next year would be Kearney, L'Estrange, Purtell, Lulia and Sammut with the club confident that BJ will soon obtain an English passport to take him off quota. With the exception of Sammut the other 4 above will also count as non-fed which would leave us with one non-fed spot left.'"
well sammut didnt count on overseas quota for crusaders due to his maltese passport so dont see why he should count on ours.
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/celtic_crusaders/8649438.stm[/url
I'm pretty certain it was stated when we signed him that he didnt count on overseas quota and only on non-fed pending clarification as to whether he qualified for dispensation. Cant find any mention of it in any online articles though. If he is on the quota now then we won't be able to register one off sammut,purtell or lulia until jeffries passport comes through ( assuming jeffries, kearney and l'estrange are all already registered for duration of their contracts.)
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| Quote ="mat"well sammut didnt count on overseas quota for crusaders due to his maltese passport so dont see why he should count on ours.
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/celtic_crusaders/8649438.stm[/url
I'm pretty certain it was stated when we signed him that he didnt count on overseas quota and only on non-fed pending clarification as to whether he qualified for dispensation. Cant find any mention of it in any online articles though. If he is on the quota now then we won't be able to register one off sammut,purtell or lulia until jeffries passport comes through ( assuming jeffries, kearney and l'estrange are all already registered for duration of their contracts.)'"
Do we have any chance of getting Lulia off the quota as he has played for the pacific islands? Willie Mason all over again!! lol
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Do we have any chance of getting Lulia off the quota as he has played for the pacific islands? Willie Mason all over again!! lol'"
I thought that but someone checked with duffy a few weeks back and lulia doesnt have a cook islands passport so isnt covered by contanou agreement
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| Quote ="mat"well sammut didnt count on overseas quota for crusaders due to his maltese passport so dont see why he should count on ours.
[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/celtic_crusaders/8649438.stm[/url
I'm pretty certain it was stated when we signed him [size=150that he didnt count on overseas quota and only on non-fed [/sizepending clarification as to whether he qualified for dispensation. Cant find any mention of it in any online articles though. If he is on the quota now then we won't be able to register one off sammut,purtell or lulia until jeffries passport comes through ( assuming jeffries, kearney and l'estrange are all already registered for duration of their contracts.)'"
That is how understand it but then again with so many loopholes
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| well heres one reference to him not counting on overseas quota for us. Certain there have been others too.
[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9246484.Hood_promises_to_fix_broken_Bulls/[/url
edit: and another from when we signed him.
[urlhttp://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12213_7064858,00.html[/url
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| Quote ="mat"well heres one reference to him not counting on overseas quota for us. Certain there have been others too.
[urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9246484.Hood_promises_to_fix_broken_Bulls/[/url
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[urlhttp://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12213_7064858,00.html[/url'"
Plus there were Peter Hood's programe comments
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| Quote ="mat"I thought that but someone checked with duffy a few weeks back and lulia doesnt have a cook islands passport so isnt covered by contanou agreement'" Correct Mat. Lulia has an Aussie passport tho plays for Cook Islands due to parents/grandparents rule. Just as Withers had an Aussie passport and played for Ireland. Sammut supposedly has an EC passport being Maltese, same as Elima being French, hes not on quota though. So have the BBC got it wrong in their article or has Malta been thrown out of the EU? and Mat, bl**dy iphone again
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| Where does Morro fit into all this, hypothetically speaking could we sign him and a.n.other over seas prop ?
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| Quote ="Steam Pig"Where does Morro fit into all this, hypothetically speaking could we sign him and a.n.other over seas prop ?
(we can assume BJ will get his passport eventually)'"
We could IF morro either gets a British passport or had signed for crusaders and gets a dispensation.
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| Brent Kite is the rumour on the Aussie boards and he classes as Kolpack apparently
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| I cant understand all this fed trained, non fed, on quota off quota, kolpak nonsense and im sure the powers that be dont either hence the delays registering players. Surely it would be much simpler if they just said maximum 4/5 NON UK players. Simples
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| I like the complications it makes for interesting rumour mongering.
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| Quote ="domthebull"I like the complications it makes for interesting rumour mongering.'"
and pages and pages of Bullscat.
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Brent Kite is the rumour on the Aussie boards and he classes as Kolpack apparently
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I fear he may come to England, but perhaps with a near neighbour
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