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| Time for a glass of dry sherry methinks gentlemen .....
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| Quote ="debaser"This thread has turned into shiite. Can't we get back to slagging off the ref?'"
Aye, it is a bit sad and retarded breaking one simple post into a million little ones. So turd.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Tut tut, shame on you. It's come to a pretty pass when [iyou[/i don't know the rule. "Downward pressure" does not apply to the ball carrier!! He has to PLACE THE BALL ON THE GROUND, no ifs, no buts, "place".
The Rule states:
The "downward pressure" bit only comes into play if a ball which is still in play (i.e. has not gone dead or been knocked on) IS ALREADY on the ground. Then, and only then, a player can score a try just by exerting downward pressure on the (already grounded) ball. (or (c))
Someone actually carrying the ball needs to ground it as in (a) - they have no other way of scoring.
I would agree that if a player drops the ball and it goes backwards, it remains in play, and after that either he, or another player, can do a (b) or a (c); however it is almost impossible to drop a ball and for it not to be a knock on, and the sort of situation where that might happen (e.g. a fullback dropping a big kick, but spilling the ball behind him) certainly didn't exist here.
If you're carrying and drop it, then you can't do (a). You can do (b), or (c) but having dropped it, it doesn't count if you've knocked on.'"
That being the case, any reading of this rule which allowed whiteheads try to be given, would also ensure Mcguires was given.
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| This thread has rejustified the reason I don't post on here much now.
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| Quote ="redeverready"This thread has rejustified the reason I don't post on here much now.'"
It is all my fault Red. As usual. I just wished I had asked people what to say before I added my opinion and it could have all been avoided.
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| Quote ="redeverready"This thread has rejustified the reason I don't post on here much now.'"
What's that?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"What's that?'"
The in-fighting on here and the holier than thou attitude of some. You should know, as certain people on here helped you get banned a number of times before you said something they like.
Bitter Bullies.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"The in-fighting on here and the holier than thou attitude of some. You should know, as certain people on here helped you get banned a number of times before you said something they like.
Bitter Bullies.'"
Everybody loves me, except FA. That's because he's jealous of me and my high status in the community though. I take it all with a pinch of salt to be honest.
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| Isn't it time to talk about the Warrington match?
Also time for the Leeds lot to leave RAB until play off time?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"
Also time for the Leeds lot to leave RAB until play off time?'"
Is this a local board for local people? If it's all the same with you I'll hang around until the moderators say so.
ME is right, this forum is full of bullies and people telling people what they can and can't post. I think I am needed here a while longer to keep some of these bullies in check.
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| Quote ="G1"Is this a local board for local people? If it's all the same with you I'll hang around until the moderators say so.
ME is right, this forum is full of bullies and people telling people what they can and can't post. I think I am needed here a while longer to keep some of these bullies in check.'"
I didn't tell you anything. I asked a question
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I didn't tell you anything. I asked a question
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And all the while you're filling your boots on our board. Another hypocrite exposed.
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| Quote ="G1"And all the while you're filling your boots on our board. Another hypocrite exposed.'"
And you're telling me to leave SS. Another hypocrite exposed.
I don't really have a problem with you posting on here, it's just your arguments with FA get a bit frustratin when they take up the whole thread (I'm sure that is understandable??) and they may be better placed in a private conversation. (I'm not the one to judge though, that's down to the mods)
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"And you're telling me to leave SS. Another hypocrite exposed.
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I'm asking you to apply your own pinciples.
Quote I don't really have a problem with you posting on here, it's just your arguments with FA get a bit frustratin when they take up the whole thread (I'm sure that is understandable??)'" Might I suggest you ask FA to stop posting? Differing opinions don't seemed to be well received on here these days. There is downright bullying of ME and I have come in for unwarranted abuse and name calling. That is frustrating.
Quote and they may be better placed in a private conversation. (I'm not the one to judge though, that's down to the mods)'" He said he didn't want to talk to me any more. Mind you, then he went on and talked to me again.
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| Passions were always going to run high because this was a pretty crucial game for both sides. Leeds had their own reasons for needing the win but I suspect Bulls fans will always feel the defeat that bit more keenly because of the club's more precarious position - no backer and none in sight, a stadium redevelopment that is touch and go at best, plus a need to appoint a head coach in a competitive market.
A win in front of a crowd that probably contained more than a few lapsed fans could have helped toreverser a worrying slide in attendances. As it was, we have a game that tantalised with how it could have gone our way before beggaring off towards Pudsey. And I think those floating voters would have been happier with an inferior performance that resulted in a win than a superior performance that resulted in a defeat by a Leeds side somewhere near their best.
Bulls should take heart that they can live with Leeds, but take note that they need a fair following wind to seal the deal. I hope they get that win this Sunday, a big opportunity to impress on national TV and potentially be a ame against Catalans away from Wembley. Lose that and it's an uphill struggle to make this season one in which the definite improvement on the field has such impact that even Eddie and his ilk on the T&A board can't ignore it. Too many loudmouthed donuts are going round Bradford saying Bulls are useless and not worth bothering with. Shame the job of shutting them up wasn't done last Sunday, fingers crossed for this week. Can be done, doesn't mean it will be done but can be done, as the Leeds game showed.
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| I'm content to let this thread roll for a little while longer [i(I'm assuming that the other Mods are too - please drop me a line if not guys)[/i . . . . . . on the proviso that the sniping, trolling (internal & external to regular RAB posters) desists and that posters get back to talking about the topic title and not each other.
If it continues, as it has for the majority of the 17 pages so far, it will be locked.
Back on topic, now, please.
<edit - Soz, AF started writing this and got dragged away before actually posting it - by which time you'd taken it back on topic anyway. BP > 22:13
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| Quote ="af" Lose that and it's an uphill struggle to make this season one in which the definite improvement on the field has such impact that even Eddie and his ilk on the T&A board can't ignore it. Too many loudmouthed donuts are going round Bradford saying Bulls are useless and not worth bothering with. Shame the job of shutting them up wasn't done last Sunday, fingers crossed for this week. Can be done, doesn't mean it will be done but can be done, as the Leeds game showed.'"
Eh?
Lets have a look at the facts again shall we?
We have had a brilliant comeback win v Wigan which has papered over the cracks again this season so far but we made up for that by blowing it against Leeds at Headingley when we should have won.
With the exception of Saints and Wire, we have not been given a pasting but with the exception of Hull KR, we have not dished out any pastings either (Challenge Cup against lower league sides does not apply!) However the Crusaders result at MM tells its own story.
However - a bit more telling is the results against the teams we are supposedly competing with at the important end of the league. Lets have a look at that eh?
Hudds (a) L 24-12
Saints (h) L 38-6
Wigan (h) W 22-20
Wire (a) L 33-8
Hull FC (a) L 18-6
Leeds (a) D 20-20
Leeds (h) L 26-12
3 points out of 14 in the big games is definite improvement? This still suggests that McNamara still cannot perform in the big ones which is something I have said for long enough.
So we can beat Salford, Hull KR, Quins, Wakefield, Crusaders (once!) and Catalans? As long as that is the level that we are looking to operate in then I guess that me and my T&A ilk must be shut up but the above results show that the people of Bradford may well just have a point.
And the Leeds game at the weekend showed what exactly?
Keep clutching at those straws Andrew.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Isn't it time to talk about the Warrington match?
Also time for the Leeds lot to leave RAB until play off time?'"
There's another thread for that. Are you going to restrict yourself to posting on RAB, or is it just when they come on here & point out the hypocricy & innaccuracies in your posts you don't like it?
For me this has been the best thread for ages, brings back memories of FA & Roy Haggerty classics from when you were still in nappies & Bradford could beat Leeds.
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| This has been a brilliant thread. Possibly one of the best on the entire site, with everything from hissy fits to reasoned arguments!
I raise my hat to the Mods for showing a fair bit of latitude, as this would have been lucky to last 2 pages on the saints board, and long may the banter continue.
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| Quote ="tigertot" For me this has been the best thread for ages, brings back memories of FA & Roy Haggerty classics from when you were still in nappies & Bradford could beat Leeds.'"
Indeed. Best thread since MC Wiggy.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"curtain.gif [size=85does that mean I'm allowed to speak again?[/size'"
Not aware that [ianyone [/ihad prevented you from doing so FA . . . . . so, Yes, in my book ( . . . .. . like you needed telling )
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"curtain.gif [size=85does that mean I'm allowed to speak again?[/size'"
You may have free reign to abuse and bully posters today. I have yesterdays and todays work to catch up on.
Oh, and in case you mis interpret the tone of my post.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"However - a bit more telling is the results against the teams we are supposedly competing with at the important end of the league. Lets have a look at that eh?
Hudds (a) L 24-12
Saints (h) L 38-6
Wigan (h) W 22-20
Wire (a) L 33-8
Hull FC (a) L 18-6
Leeds (a) D 20-20
Leeds (h) L 26-12'"
Those stat's don't make pretty reading for Bulls fans and the 3 points gained were not easy (By 2 points). Saying that Leeds haven't faired much better against the big boys.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Eh?
Lets have a look at the facts again shall we?
We have had a brilliant comeback win v Wigan which has papered over the cracks again this season so far but we made up for that by blowing it against Leeds at Headingley when we should have won.
With the exception of Saints and Wire, we have not been given a pasting but with the exception of Hull KR, we have not dished out any pastings either (Challenge Cup against lower league sides does not apply!) However the Crusaders result at MM tells its own story.
However - a bit more telling is the results against the teams we are supposedly competing with at the important end of the league. Lets have a look at that eh?
Hudds (a) L 24-12
Saints (h) L 38-6
Wigan (h) W 22-20
Wire (a) L 33-8
Hull FC (a) L 18-6
Leeds (a) D 20-20
Leeds (h) L 26-12
3 points out of 14 in the big games is definite improvement? This still suggests that McNamara still cannot perform in the big ones which is something I have said for long enough.
So we can beat Salford, Hull KR, Quins, Wakefield, Crusaders (once!) and Catalans? As long as that is the level that we are looking to operate in then I guess that me and my T&A ilk must be shut up but the above results show that the people of Bradford may well just have a point.
And the Leeds game at the weekend showed what exactly?
Keep clutching at those straws Andrew.'"
Last season we lost to all of Salford, Hull KR, Wakefield, Crusaders and Catalans. This season we've shown we're better than those teams. This is reflected in our improved league position. Apart from the Murrayfield glitch we're performing better than last year against the lesser sides.
Of course we've struggled against the bigger clubs but if you look at the squads on paper in comparison with our own you can see why. On some occasions we've improved too apart from the Saints debacle at home. What do you expect from this squad? I said at the season start that 5th would be the best we could hop for. What do you think?
I think you need to give some credit for the improvement that's taken place. Few teams go from where we finished last year to top 4 and so to do as well as we have is pretty good, especially when you compare our spending power with the likes of others. The club's had to put a limit on spending and this means we're lacking a bit of depth and class but that's not the coach's fault is it?
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