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| Quote ="redeverready"Unfortunately the hiring of MD makes that scenario implausible because he doesn't have the reputation he needs the players onside more than they need him.'"
My only counter to that is that Nigel has hung what remains of his reputation on that appointment of MD and has no option other than to back him to the hilt.
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| Nigel's reputation already speaks for itself unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Highlander"My only counter to that is that Nigel has hung what remains of his reputation on that appointment of MD and has no option other than to back him to the hilt.'" Getting backed by Wood will have no impact on how Dunning is seen in the players eyes. It's will probably keep him in the job longer than it possibly should but as for the players he doesn't have the status unless we suddenly start winning every week.
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| Frankly, I’m past caring enough to go through the list. I can think of only a handful of players I would be disappointed to see go. Doyle being top of the list and he will be off to a SL club after this season.
I’d like to say we might hear some honest communication on Thursday but I expect most of the time will be taken up by trivial questions hand picked by the club and sent in by the rose tinted brigade. It’s due to start at 8.15, will probably be late starting and wrapped up by no later than 9.30 due to some pressing engagement with the panel blah blah blah. I’m just about at the point where I am looking to cancel my Bullbuilder contributions and cut ties completely and focus my free time on something else. I can’t even get enthused to watch SL matches, the quality of entertainment across the sport must be at an all time low.
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| Quote ="redeverready" but as for the players he doesn't have the status .'"
The exceptions to that will be the relatively new players who have maintained their professionalism (admittedly a small number) and any current players who have been coached by Dunning & Beattie in our academy - old habits die hard in that case.
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| It’s been about 5 years since I watched an SL game on sky all the way through. I sometimes put it on, but invariably I decide I can’t be bothered watching as it’s boring or poor skills or both
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| I think we should send Patton to train with Leeds and get him back into shape (though it's all gone quiet on our 'Special buddies' relationship recently) when he decides he wants to play the difference is day and night.
Amateur Tuesday and Thursday training session don't work for most of our comfort eaters....
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| If you wanted to plot how to ruin professional RL in Bradford you couldn't have put together a better plan than what's unfolded over the past 10 years. We've had plenty of bad/misguided owners along the way but a common denominator is the current owner who's had a say in a lot of the things that have got us where we are now. I fear the club will only properly recover when his malign influence is no more and that may mean starting from scratch all over again.
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| What's clear is that Nige's had a cunning plan all along but his ambition outweighed his talent and it was beyond him to execute it even though they're still talking about a stadium fit for the 21st Century...
All that leaves us with is missed opportunities (Koukash, Thorpe) and something so toxic that only a fan who's won the Euromillions would even countenance taking it on.
A mate who worked in the game is upbeat that the IMG input will level the game far more that we see now but I am afraid we are so far below the level that full amateur beckons, playing out of Peel Park whilst someone gets paid a mint for using the dump for inert landfill
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| Quote ="Bullseye"If you wanted to plot how to ruin professional RL in Bradford you couldn't have put together a better plan than what's unfolded over the past 10 years. We've had plenty of bad/misguided owners along the way but a common denominator is the current owner who's had a say in a lot of the things that have got us where we are now. I fear the club will only properly recover when his malign influence is no more and that may mean starting from scratch all over again.'"
This. I don't see any way out of our current struggles because they are so intractable and a direct result of events between the secret loan, the sale of the lease and the bizarre choice of owners. Talking about who goes or stays is like discussing what colour to paint the toilets.
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| Phew...BullBoy stays, he's just undergone a refurbishment. That's my primary matchday concern fixed.
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| For those saying it's the worst squad they've ever seen. Last year we literally threw away third spot. We only really lost Pickersgill who we would have liked to keep. Brough retired but also missed a large chunk of the season and I think Patton has replaced him well enough.
However the players are no where near good enough to turn up with half d attitudes and pathetic off-field diets. We can sign who we want but if they all turn up in the physical condition half our squad is in, it's all irrelevant.
Dunning talked about those wanting to play for Bradford Bulls. It shouldn't be about that, it should be who want play for Bradford Bulls that have strict standards in play and are prepared to keep to this standards off the field.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"What's clear is that Nige's had a cunning plan all along but his ambition outweighed his talent and it was beyond him to execute it even though they're still talking about a stadium fit for the 21st Century...
All that leaves us with is missed opportunities (Koukash, Thorpe) and something so toxic that only a fan who's won the Euromillions would even countenance taking it on.
A mate who worked in the game is upbeat that the IMG input will level the game far more that we see now but I am afraid we are so far below the level that full amateur beckons, playing out of Peel Park whilst someone gets paid a mint for using the dump for inert landfill'"
I don't quite buy that. I can't see any scenario where either Nigel or the RFL would gain any benefit from holding a lease on a site owned by CBMDC. The idea that £700k buys you the Odsal site is implausible. A more likely scenario for me is that Wood and co bought into the Caisley conspiracy stories being peddled (on here by the club) at the time and wanted to help Hood. By the time they realised Hood could never pay them back and the loan would become public and disastrous PR, they made what must go down as one of the most terrible decisions in the history of the British game. That neither party insisted on a EGM of the shareholders tells you everything you need to know. The 'saving the iconic Odsal stadium from predators' story should have seen the wider game call for clear out at the top of the RFL.
Why he has maintained an interest and returned to the scene of British RL's greatest disaster only he knows.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"I don't quite buy that. I can't see any scenario where either Nigel or the RFL would gain any benefit from holding a lease on a site owned by CBMDC. The idea that £700k buys you the Odsal site is implausible. A more likely scenario for me is that Wood and co bought into the Caisley conspiracy stories being peddled (on here by the club) at the time and wanted to help Hood. By the time they realised Hood could never pay them back and the loan would become public and disastrous PR, they made what must go down as one of the most terrible decisions in the history of the British game. That neither party insisted on a EGM of the shareholders tells you everything you need to know. The 'saving the iconic Odsal stadium from predators' story should have seen the wider game call for clear out at the top of the RFL.
Why he has maintained an interest and returned to the scene of British RL's greatest disaster only he knows.'"
That whole episode just reeks of total incompetence. Yet the RL press meekly reported what they were told.
Whatever the reason for Wood hanging around his parasitical influence remains on the game and us. Maybe he does hope of working some angle on the ground, even though it seems completely implausible? I can't think of any other reason. His track record as a club owner is abysmal.
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| The new rumour going around is that he’s looking to liquidated the ckub.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"The new rumour going around is that he’s looking to liquidated the ckub.'"
Well if he did that I'm not sure he'd make any money since the "assets" amount to bugger all.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"The new rumour going around is that he’s looking to liquidated the ckub.'"
I mean I have zero time for the bloke but whatever his end game is, I doubt it is liquidation.
Why buy the club in the first place?
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"The new rumour going around is that he’s looking to liquidated the ckub.'"
I don't even think that many would be bothered anymore
5 years ago they was a will to save the club
I don't think the fanbase would react the same now.
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| At least we can forget all this talk about attacking kicks, dummy runners, offloads and one up rugby and we can get back to the proper talk about TUPEs and admin fees.
Anyone got NestEgg’s number?
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| As stated in the OP please keep this thread about ON FIELD ONLY!!!
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| Think we've drifted off topic a bit but that was inevitable given what's going on.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"As stated in the OP please keep this thread about ON FIELD ONLY!!!'"
You are Nigel Wood and i claim my £5.
In reality the reason the squad is in such a state because of all the other problems.
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| Can nigel please go it would help us a great deal...
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| It's a good time to remember that the soon to be ex-Mrs Wood is taking him to the cleaners...
He may well need out and have no choice?
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| On topic and on players, other than Tommy Doyle and Gill I don’t think I’d be crushed by anyone leaving to be fair.
There’s a few I’d prefer to keep, more backs than forwards as I think forwards is where we really struggle.
Unfortunately the lack of money means whoever goes will be replaced with a similar calibre of player unless we have a huge cash injection and can start completing with Fev, Leigh, York, Fax etc on spend. That is where a dedicated set up like Batley comes in to punch above our weight which I think we wanted under kear but it never seemed to happen for us.
I don’t think the squad is as bad as it looks, certainly not promotion pushing but not shipping 50 to Newcastle (no offence to them). Maybe the negativity and attitude that ‘everyone is playing for fun while Fev and Leigh battle for promotion’ has worked its way into the club.
Naturally they can’t tell the fans that though as they need to ticket sale so it’s business as usual and SL here we come….
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