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I stand corrected. Yes he didn't play against catalans but he was poor in most other games bar the Salford one. I'm sick of people bigging him up, he has filled a gap and helped bulls out when we had injuries but isn't superleague standard yet. For all those saying he is better than Hargreaves, lynch, scruton and koppy.....I think they need to wake up and smell the coffee!!'"
I don't recall any poster saying that he is currently better than any prop at the Bulls.
Why the paranoia ?
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I stand corrected. Yes he didn't play against catalans but he was poor in most other games bar the Salford one. I'm sick of people bigging him up, he has filled a gap and helped bulls out when we had injuries but isn't superleague standard yet. For all those saying he is better than Hargreaves, lynch, scruton and koppy.....I think they need to wake up and smell the coffee!!'"
I dont like coffee
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Hiding behind a computer then slating other players is pretty gutless'"
Yes, that would be a good point.
Quote ="Bullsfab!"I totally agree! Why keep bigging up burgess? He was tragic against catalans and Wigan and is grossly overweight and slow. '"
Hmm. Other than (presumably) you're not "another player", it's OK for you to do it, though?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Yes, that would be a good point.
Hmm. Other than (presumably) you're not "another player", it's OK for you to do it, though?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Does he get let out early for good behaviour?'"
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"I don't recall any poster saying that he is currently better than any prop at the Bulls.
Why the paranoia ?'"
Erm please read 1st page of this thread and put your specs on!
paulwalker71 wrote:Is there some sort of conspiracy here to 'big up' Tom Burgess?
I agree that Hargreaves needs to up his game, but we've got about three threads now that seem to be all about getting Burgess to stay in the team
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Not having a pop at people on this thread, but it just a few comments on numerous threads that Kopczak & Burgess are better than Lynch.'"
I admire that your sticking up for Lynch, as i also think he is a good player, although, i can't quite recall anyone stating that Koppy and Burgess were better than Lynch. As stated elsewhere, they are different types of props and i like what the 2 subs are doing at the moment.
Tom has been getting better every week. And Koppy has been improving for about a year now. Over the next year i expect them both to be even better.
I think the majority of people are happy with Lynch this year, that said, there's nothing wrong with crediting other players, especially as their improvement seems to greater than what most would have expected.
I'm pretty happy with our forward pack (including Bryn + Scrutes ) and the competition is going to be great for the club.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Erm please read 1st page of this thread and put your specs on!
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And what post on the first page is relevant.
My specs tell me when reading your posts they are full cr*p
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"And what post on the first page is relevant.
My specs tell me when reading your posts they are full cr*p'"
I was looking at a T&A article this aft and I think he posted a similar comment (completely out of the blue).
Was quickly shot down.....
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| If Burgess is overweight and slow according to Bullsfab then Andy Lynch must be Jabba the Hut.
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Why are you always the first to try and shoot somebody down if they know something that you dont ???'"
Because Bullsfab! doesn't know something that Bullschamp doesn't.. and that's because Bullsfab is talking out of his harris.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Yeah it's come straight from horses mouth someone who works at t&a
And has access to the forum info'"
Little word in your ear.
There are indeed folk at the T&A who will be in a position to know who some of the posters on there really are.
Anyone in such a position who DID divulge such information would be at serious risk (at the very least) of losing his job. And THAT comes straight form the horse's mouth.
And if anyone DID divulge anything nevertheless, it would surely be suicidal to do so to someone who was likely to blab it all over the internet forums. Would it not?
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| For those bagging Lynch, who scored the try at the end of the game today to make the game safe? Lynch is our best prop, our most consistent prop and he spends more time on the pitch than any other of our props!
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| If bryn is out for 3 weeks, scruton and crossley still out, who will our fourth prop be against Saints? lynch Kops Tom and ???
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| Burgess looks massive although he didnt appear to do a great deal yesterday-Maybe to hot for him
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"If bryn is out for 3 weeks, scruton and crossley still out, who will our fourth prop be against Saints? lynch Kops Tom and ???'"
scrutons back in training and should be up for selection next week. failing that langley or elima could do a stint at prop.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Little word in your ear.
There are indeed folk at the T&A who will be in a position to know who some of the posters on there really are.
Anyone in such a position who DID divulge such information would be at serious risk (at the very least) of losing his job. And THAT comes straight form the horse's mouth.
And if anyone DID divulge anything nevertheless, it would surely be suicidal to do so to someone who was likely to blab it all over the internet forums. Would it not?'"
It is quite easy to fool people on the internet. I run one of the popular spoof Twitter accounts. It has 850 or so followers and half of those still think that I am that person.
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| Quote ="mat"scrutons back in training and should be up for selection next week. '"
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I stand corrected. Yes he didn't play against catalans but he was poor in most other games bar the Salford one. I'm sick of people bigging him up, he has filled a gap and helped bulls out when we had injuries but isn't superleague standard yet. For all those saying he is better than Hargreaves, lynch, scruton and koppy.....I think they need to wake up and smell the coffee!!'"
I don't agree that Tom has been "poor". In the context of a youngster breaking into the side I think he's done well, he's certainly given his all and a few of his opponents might well remember his name from now on.
Possibly a few have gone a little 'over the top' when assessing his performance, but this is a message board and people are entitled to their opinion, in any case it does counter some of the pointless negativity about players that we seem to get.
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| Quote ="steamingbull02"For those bagging Lynch, who scored the try at the end of the game today to make the game safe? Lynch is our best prop, our most consistent prop and he spends more time on the pitch than any other of our props!'"
Funnily enough, I noticed that Lynch is currently fifth-top metre-maker in the WHOLE COMPETITION. No other Bull gets in the top 25. Seventh in number of carries (and ditto) and 13th top tackler. In the WHOLE COMPETITION. Oh, and sixth-top offloader - in the WHOLE COMPETITION.
Not bad for a guy who, according to received wisdom of more than a few on here, is clearly past it and past his sell-by date?
nb: last season he was 7th, 5th, 23rd and first(!) respectively.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Funnily enough, I noticed that Lynch is currently fifth-top metre-maker in the WHOLE COMPETITION. No other Bull gets in the top 25. Seventh in number of carries (and ditto) and 13th top tackler. In the WHOLE COMPETITION. Oh, and sixth-top offloader - in the WHOLE COMPETITION.
Not bad for a guy who, according to received wisdom of more than a few on here, is clearly past it and past his sell-by date?
nb: last season he was 7th, 5th, 23rd and first(!) respectively.'"
The stats mean nothing Adey
The fact that he's the second best prop in terms of metres made counts for nothing.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Funnily enough, I noticed that Lynch is currently fifth-top metre-maker in the WHOLE COMPETITION. No other Bull gets in the top 25. Seventh in number of carries (and ditto) and 13th top tackler. In the WHOLE COMPETITION. Oh, and sixth-top offloader - in the WHOLE COMPETITION.
Not bad for a guy who, according to received wisdom of more than a few on here, is clearly past it and past his sell-by date?
nb: last season he was 7th, 5th, 23rd and first(!) respectively.'"
Do you mean his stats are just within the club?
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| Quote ="tigertot"Do you mean his stats are just within the club?'"
???
Those are SL-wide stats for all players for all 14 SL clubs for 2011.
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| If you guys want to offload that waste of space Lynch, maybe us at Saints could do you a deal.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"???
Those are SL-wide stats for all players for all 14 SL clubs for 2011.'"
Well why didn't you say? Tschh.
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