Why? he hasnt exactly progressed at hull kr since leaving. Last year he was overtaken by donno and this year whitehead would have overtaken him. He would maybe have kept worrincy out off squad but thats by no means definite. Think he'd gone as far as he was going to with us and while it may be nice to have him now, when we have few knocks, in general dont think he's been missed.

you sure you're not mixing him up with matt james?

No, Matt Cook. He is a reliable, 100%, experienced, homegrown, versatile and no doubt not very expensive player. Would have been a cheap addition to this 'underfunded lightweight squad' which is being severly tested for numbers at the moment and most probably will be again in thie season.

On that note, Matt James would have also been a welcome number to the squad.

Don't dispute that he'd come in handy now with the injuries. But dont think that ' he'll come in handy if we get a few injuries' is sufficient reason to give a player a new deal.

There are various reasons to give players new deals, being a squad player is one of them and being a squad man is to rotate and cover. Matt Cook didnt want to leave the Bulls and there was a lot he could offer and he knew his place in the team. It was a mistake to not offer him a new deal and it's hitting us now, hence us being in the market for experienced loan signing.

did he? seem to remember him moaning a couple of times to press about not being selected. think problem was he didnt see himself as a squad player and wanted to be a starter. With langley,mezies,hall,donno,whitehead all ahead off him in pecking order and a strong crop of 2nd rows coming through behind him he was never going to be more than asquad player at bulls.

That said it may well be cook we're looking at loaning given maccas connections with the hull clubs.

Huddersfield appear to have a massive squad. What do we think the chances of them sending us someone from Monday & who is the likely option if this is the case?

Cook's average at best. He's been no better at HKR.

I have to say that Luke Burgess was the first name that sprung into my head. No idea why though!

leeds may want to give pitts and amor some gametime and burgess is supposed to want out to go to nrl at end of season, so their might be some mileage in them loaning him out and then having a decent look at those 2 before end of season to see if they need to sign someone else. Just cant see Leeds helpings bulls out in shape or form.

Larne Patrick?



It's interesting to see Matt James mentioned, I thought about him earlier for a potential loanee. If we get a prop then it's going to be Hall to the second row I guess? But with Langley (supposedly back) in a couple of weeks then Hall will probably be a bench second row.

What about a half back? Orford still not fit & worryingly quiet on the BK front!!

Orford is getting there though and given we have Menzies, Addy, Stranger and Southernwood to cover then I think it would be more useful to get a winger or a prop.

Menzies is shifting between centre & back row so if he is covering halfs aswell we are getting short of numbers, Addy ok on bench at moment covering as needed but not sure he is ready to control game at half back, Stranger proved in last frew weeks we need him at hooker, no where else & general opinion with Southernwood seems to be saying not quite ready

Menzies only played centre because Reardon was out, he's back now and after Wardle's 30 minutes I think he could last a whole game there if needed.

I reckon it will be a prop we get, but anyone who will improve the team will be fine.

Agreed, if he can kick goals, control the game, take us forward, and convince the board to sign up beaver for next year he will do for me!! The icing on the cake would be if was also NRL proven but non quota counting!! We can hope!!

Widdop could do a few of those




According to the T&A we are looking for an experience forward though.

Wouldnt object to Widdop

Get Sam over here, have another bout of volcanic ash for a bit, Sam has some time on his hands...job sorted!

I got the impression from the article that we had a player in mind, be interesting to see who it is. I'd take Burgess if Leeds want rid, not anywhere near Sam's level but he's a decent SL level Prop who would strengthen us at this moment in time. I doubt Leeds would be particularly keen to help us out though! So it seems a little unlikely!

Says in the T & A the deal has fallen through. Would love to know who it was

Pity the deal fell through, we could have done with some extra experience in the pack. Looking like an extremely tough few weeks for the Bulls.

given o'meley picked up an injury last night ruling him out for a month and we hear the loan deals fallen through this morning, I'd say its highly likely the loanee was a hull player who's now needed as cover for o'meley which would make sense given macca's hull connections.

We probably had our eye on a specific player then, but surely we could still go for another player, even if they aren't as good/experienced. Any extra numbers would be a bonus.

Jeff Grayshon must be sat by the phone waiting for it to ring.