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| This is a strange thread. There's no evidence whatsoever but everyone has picked up and run with it.
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| As things stand, particularly with the cap, I can't see it being possible to be honest. Then again who expected the Crossley signing? We do seem to be doing some strange things and as we were clearly in for a player, I'd have expected it to be a half rather than another forward. I mean, Crossley is a very welcome addition, but another prop wasn't on [imy[/i 'most needed' list.
It might be a load of cobblers, but it's been entertaining!
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| Well there was clear ambiguity about whether someone is going out of the door to allow Crossley to come in. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that we do a bit of horse trading to let Sammut come in.
I find it utterly staggering that Wakey are feeling extremely sorry for themselves, short on numbers, and Sammut STILL isn't getting picked. Webster must, in effect, regard Sammut as without any use at all. In which case getting rid is logical.
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| I shall be going to watch Sammut on Sunday so I will ask him after the game if he is heading back to us
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| Or I could just ask my lad to ask him
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| Quote ="roger daly"Or I could just ask my lad to ask him'"
We need to know asap whether to beat up verdeyen01 so any information would be gratefully received.
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| Cheers Roger - our man on the inside!
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| I remember reading a post from a Wakey fan about how bad Sammut was at doing silly kicks and giving the ball back to the opposition. Didn't our coach say this once when he was with us.
You either like him or not. Yes he can break the line but none of his team mate will ever know what he is about to do.
I am not sure about bringing him back. Too much of a loose cannon for me in terms of sticking to a game plan and I don't think he will complement Gaskel.
I certainly wouldn't talk about him as a high earner. How has he ever earned that reputation? Which top team has he ever played for or even asked to play for? As far as wages go I wouldn't put him any higher than an average player who has always plied his trade in the "struggling" lower teams.
I think there is a lot of sentiment about him because of this "aura" he seems to have built up about himself with his very occasional piece of brilliance,his looks and that brilliant try he scored against us.
I wouldn't lose sleep if we went for him but I would be surprised because of his unreliable style of play. We have a big pack now so we need a general. I suspect Seika is still our hope for the generals job - but I agree that we are struggling at the moment. Seika could be back in 6-7 weeks but can he get 100% right by the play-off's?
I can see why people like him but I am clearly not sure that his style will make us better. Will our 8 props follow him around the field waiting for him to do something or will he learn to run across the line like Deac's used to do and bring the forwards on to a well timed pass?
Maybe my problem with him is that at my age I remember the likes of Alan Redfearn and Woolford. Can't remember Seabourne. These to me used to lead the pack and get others to do things when they needed to. It is probably why I think of Sammut as a loose cannon.
Time will tell.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Funnily enough, I had similar feelings when Henry Paul was brought in to accompany Robbie! I thought they were far too alike and unlikely to be a good 'foil' for each other but, to be fair, that worked out pretty well in the end.'"
Ah, you win.
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| To be honest, I thought Siejka, rather than Sammut, was the man who might run across the line like Deacs but he doesn't seem to have quite got the hang of it yet - though I accept he's improved since his early games and shows some promise, just a shame the injury came when it did.
Alan Redfearn and Johnny Wolford, what wouldn't we give for either of those, Bak Diabira and Tommy Smales too. Different game and different coaches to be fair, though I've no doubts they could have adapted to the modern game.
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| Still no evidence on this subject then ???
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| None that I'm aware of - has the OP been back since [she lit the blue touch paper and retired?
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| Thats what i suspect Bulliac, prob wont be back for a while now haha.
id like him back if it does turn out to be true, he maybe be a loose cannon but on his off days he still had an influence, Gaskell and Sammut running at defences from the line or dummy half would be something to see.
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| If we had signed him, I don't see how he'd be playing for our rival team London this week on dual reg from Wakefield. And yet, he's in their 19 man squad.
So seems unlikely at this point.
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| I don't think this has come out of nowhere. We need a half, Wakey have one who no matter what the results, the coach won't pick.
Wakey won't want to let him sign for us, we won't want to pay his full salary. In the meantime they can't sign anyone else as they don't have any fans and they're paying JS. Similarly, in the meantime we're playing Addy in the halves and look short of options off the bench.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"I don't think this has come out of nowhere. We need a half, Wakey have one who no matter what the results, the coach won't pick.
Wakey won't want to let him sign for us, we won't want to pay his full salary. In the meantime they can't sign anyone else as they don't have any fans and they're paying JS. Similarly, in the meantime we're playing Addy in the halves and look short of options off the bench.'"
Indeed, we would probably be helping Wakefield to strengthen their squad if they're intent on not playing him. I certainly don't see any great need to be offering much to Wakefield in term of compensation for releasing him from his contract. Whether we'd need to make room on our cap is open to debate, from the outside you'd think we might but in reality who knows.
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| If he goes to London for the season he may still play against Wakey in the play-off's unless there is a rule stated that he can't. If I was Wakey I would state he can't play in any of the play-off's as points will be vital. But why would London take on such a key player to help them get into the top 4 and then lose him in those games. That doesn't make sense.
Interesting to hear one of the commentators last night say "it is the job of a scrum half to make everyone else do what he is thinking".
Maybe that is exactly what the problem is with Sammut. Nobody has a clue what he is thinking so they all stand around wondering what is about to happen.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Indeed, we would probably be helping Wakefield to strengthen their squad if they're intent on not playing him. I certainly don't see any great need to be offering much to Wakefield in term of compensation for releasing him from his contract. Whether we'd need to make room on our cap is open to debate, from the outside you'd think we might but in reality who knows.'"
Ha ha, never thought of it that way BB, but of course, you're right!
To be honest, I would have thought that, seeing as they clearly don't want him, taking him off their wages bill would be compensation enough. In any case, they only took him in the first place so he couldn't play for us last season. As for the cap, well yeah, I agree we really don't know, but we've got what - a full time squad of 31 players and a cap of just under £1m? Fair enough, a couple of those are juniors but evens so...Mind, there is still the rumour about one of the forwards leaving
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| Quote ="Bulliac"
Alan Redfearn and Johnny Wolford, what wouldn't we give for either of those, Bak Diabira and Tommy Smales too. Different game and different coaches to be fair, though I've no doubts they could have adapted to the modern game.'"
Memory lane ... David Stockwell ... when I was a kid I thought he didn't have a nose it was that flat, Bak is one of my all time favourite players ... class
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| I see Jarrod Sammut as backup for Lee Gaskell. What if Lee gets injured? With Harry Siejka moving the team around the pitch, performing the role that Jimmy wants him to play, in the absence of Lee Gaskell Jarrod Sammut could cut defences to shreds. We can't afford to go into the 8's with star men injured and without a capable backup.
That's if we can afford Jarrod, of course, both in terms of our own budgets and the salary cap. And that is not information we are privy to.
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| Quote ="HiramC"I see Jarrod Sammut as backup for Lee Gaskell. What if Lee gets injured? With Harry Siejka moving the team around the pitch, performing the role that Jimmy wants him to play, in the absence of Lee Gaskell Jarrod Sammut could cut defences to shreds. We can't afford to go into the 8's with star men injured and without a capable backup.That's if we can afford Jarrod, of course, both in terms of our own budgets and the salary cap. And that is not information we are privy to.'"
You're his Agent!? I claim my Five pounds!
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| Jajaja hardly sir! Difficult as I live in Colombia...
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| Quote ="miketaurus"Memory lane ... David Stockwell ... when I was a kid I thought he didn't have a nose it was that flat, Bak is one of my all time favourite players ... class
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You have to smile at those who go on about Rangi Chase today, well fair enough, he's pretty special but he does [inothing[/i that Bak wasn't doing back in the day. As a kid I thought he was a magician!
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| Quote ="HiramC"Jajaja hardly sir! Difficult as I live in Colombia...
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Would you mind asking Shakira if she'll go out with me please?
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| I hear there is some trouble brewing at Leigh. Two different people have told me the same story. Maybe not the best club in the land afterall
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