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| To be fair to Ainscough i don't think he was helped by Platt, one of the tries Platt did a 360 and had his back to the defence. If Ainscough was outside Lulia, his defence problems would be ironed out as Lulia is one of the best defensive centres around. His pace is a lethal weapon and gives us so many options and he runs his blood to water coming in looking for work.
Gale needs to work on his defence as he was one of the worst last night and got caught completely out of posiion (and to be fair not for the first time this year)
Kearney was class and i thought L'estrange ripped them to pieces from the ruck. Slightly disappointed as i feel 1t 22 - 4 or 34 -16 we should have kicked on and improved our points difference. Tackl bags should be out this week.
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| Great attacking play tonight, particularly when Kearney came in the line. Defensively we were very poor and we'll get stuffed at Saints if we defend like that.
As has been said we miss Langley's defence up the middle and we were giving cheap yards away around the ruck. On the fringes we looked weak too, Gale, Jeffries, Platt and Ainscough don't inspire great confidence. I can see Saints throwing a lot their way.
Thought L'Estrange had a great game.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"
Offensively Ainscough offers a good carry and energy; defensively he is absolutely horrendous.
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That's always been the case, and is primarily why we (Wigan) let him go to Cas, and probably why Cas let him go to you. Don't expect him to change much, just hope that he scores more tries than he concedes.
Well done on pushing Leeds out of the top 8, and hope you guys do manage to survive financially!
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| L'Estrange, Kearney, Gale worked well together. Thought Jeffries showed some nice touches too, but we'd look better with Sammuts spark and pace.
Like others have said, in attack we were very good (especially first half) but much work needed on defence.
Thought Olby looked strong, but Sibbit looked to have gone backwards. L'Estrange ripped them to bits in his first spell but when Addy came on we lost direction (who was captain anyway?). Next week i'd like to see addy into Sibbits place and O'Brien on bench as hooker.
Oh, and Pryce will not win anyone over when he watches a high bomb bounce right in front of him. Summed up difference between him and Ainy. Both have weaknesses, but Ainy will work his b0llocks off to try and make up for them.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Oh, and Pryce will not win anyone over when he watches a high bomb bounce right in front of him. Summed up difference between him and Ainy. Both have weaknesses, but Ainy will work his b0llocks off to try and make up for them.'"
Harsh at best! The ball bounced directly between him and Kearney. Both to blame. Should have been a call.
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| A win's a win and our attack was pretty clinical in the first half, but we made it hard for ourself with shocking defending throughout!
We gifted Castleford most of their tries as we made a poor side look okay.
The thing is with Chase, he's only a good player if you give him space. Close him down and wrap him up and he'll make mistakes and gets annoyed... he doesn't like being tackled. Most overrated Man of Steel in my lifetime!
Wigan/Warrington/Catalans etc would have scored 70 against Cas yesterday and I'm not really sure why Millward is still in a job.
But you have to look at the positives... Kearney, Gale, L'Estrange, Bateman, Whitehead, Ainscough, Olbison and the props all had good games and are showing signs we'll be a top 8 side at the end of the season!
Long may the wins continue, COYB!
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| Quote ="cieranblonde"Harsh at best! The ball bounced directly between him and Kearney. Both to blame. Should have been a call.'"
If right then apologies, looked to me as though Pryce got under it then bottled it.
I've defended Pryce this season though. But we brought my sister to the game who hasnt been yet this season, but she asked me why the winger always has his hands on his hips looking knackered and why on 2 occasions he let people run past him with no attempt to tackle.
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| Quote I've defended Pryce this season though. But we brought my sister to the game who hasnt been yet this season, but she asked me why the winger always has his hands on his hips looking knackered and why on 2 occasions he let people run past him with no attempt to tackle.'"
I wonder, did she also ask how that same winger managed to get out two incredible passes that resulted in one try and should have resulted in a second, if Sibbit had been aware
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| The last few seasons we usually seem to uneasy about handling bombs on the line. Kearney usually has a good pair of hands and I thought he would just have claimed the ball landing between him and Pryce.
My main gripe about last night was no-one seems to come an support the man looking to take the catch. I think there were two or three players stood watching when Ainscough dropped it - they should have been awake as in these situations the scores usually come from someone picking up a loose ball.
Pryce seems to have the turning circle of a supertanker and if passed always seems to give the opposition a 10m start, but he slipped a couple of excellent passes last night to his credit.
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| Quote ="bullsfanusa"I wonder, did she also ask how that same winger managed to get out two incredible passes that resulted in one try and should have resulted in a second, if Sibbit had been aware'"
The first one yeah.
Not saying he didn't do anything good, but he still has alot to work on. Still worth an extension for me, he's done more good than bad on the whole.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"If right then apologies, looked to me as though Pryce got under it then bottled it.
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From my seat in the stand it appeared to be going much nearer to Karl than Brett and I couldn't believe it when he just let it drop as he's claimed quite few very similar 'bombs' in fine fashion through the season. Maybe a Cas player called and put him off, I don't know, but it was a bad error.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"If right then apologies, looked to me as though Pryce got under it then bottled it.
I've defended Pryce this season though. But we brought my sister to the game who hasnt been yet this season, but she asked me why the winger always has his hands on his hips looking knackered and why on 2 occasions he let people run past him with no attempt to tackle.'"
He was right under it and watched it bounce. Not a good idea - that balls a funny shape it can go anywhere!!! would have had more respect if he attempted and missed it.
I've seen him puffing and panting with his hands on his hips in every game. I do like Pryce and he shows decent play on occasions but other players on this board do more, try more and get slated for the least little thing.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"The first one yeah.
Not saying he didn't do anything good, but he still has alot to work on. Still worth an extension for me, he's done more good than bad on the whole.'"
Agreed on both points - far from the finished article but a lot of positives so far. Certainly worth an extension especially given the fact that he is from Bradford - we need to develop the nucleus of the team around home grown talent, and while we have plenty of forwards we are short of home grown backs.
As far as the "dropped bomb", for me it was the full backs to call and claim. That said, as Phil Clarke pointed out, Pryce did not knock on - it was palmed back by the Cas player and should have been play on Bulls ball.
Game was shown live in the US - first "live game" I have seen on US TV since the WCC v Newcastle Knights!!
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| Quote ="bullsfanusa"Agreed on both points - far from the finished article but a lot of positives so far. Certainly worth an extension especially given the fact that he is from Bradford - we need to develop the nucleus of the team around home grown talent, and while we have plenty of forwards we are short of home grown backs.
As far as the "dropped bomb", for me it was the full backs to call and claim. That said, as Phil Clarke pointed out, Pryce did not knock on - it was palmed back by the Cas player and should have been play on Bulls ball.
Game was shown live in the US - first "live game" I have seen on US TV since the WCC v Newcastle Knights!!'"
Pryce was closest to the ball, is the tallest and should be claiming it if he has any danglers.
He also clearly knocked on with his right hand. Immaterial, since it wouldn't have got to that point had Elima not tried the miracle ball that wasn't on.
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| It must have been a record for a SKY game, 14 tries without the intervention of the Video Ref.
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| Quote ="fido"would have had more respect if he attempted and missed it.
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Agreed, that's why I compared him with Ainy. Shaun missed one which led to a try but at least he went for it. I'd have been mightily pi$$ed off with Karl if it had resulted in a try, i was just disappointed with Ainy but atleast he gave it his best shot.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Agreed, that's why I compared him with Ainy. Shaun missed one which led to a try but at least he went for it. I'd have been mightily pi$$ed off with Karl if it had resulted in a try, i was just disappointed with Aint=y but atleast he gave it his best shot.'"
He looked very disappointed with himself which was fair enough at least he cared enough to be disappointed. Your right, to try and fail is better than to not bother.
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| Just been on the Castleford board and they seem to think Lulia is a target for them next year.
Have you heard anything about this?
I really hope we can keep hold of him
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| Everyone's "a target" if those in charge don't get their act together soon. However Lulia's under contract IIRC so anyone that wants him would have to pay up.
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| Quote ="Lulia my Lord"Just been on the Castleford board and they seem to think Lulia is a target for them next year.
Have you heard anything about this?
I really hope we can keep hold of him'"
If he went - would you change your name?
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| Quote ="Lulia my Lord"Just been on the Castleford board and they seem to think Lulia is a target for them next year.
Have you heard anything about this?
I really hope we can keep hold of him'"
Yeah I heard it. Nailed on, apparently.
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| TBH, I think Cas fans are just desperate to get anybody in that is better than the current bag of poo poo that theyve got now and are linking anybody that they think might be available.
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| Shenton just signed for Cas, I can't see us selling Lulia to Cas, they're hardly cash rich are they?
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| Wouldnt be surprising if our players' agents are looking for alternative employers in case things do go belly up. They'd be failing in their job if they didnt. I expect Lulia has a few potential offers lined up.
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| Somebody at the club told me it's in the bag.
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