I don't think it is at all likely. To get 4th, we'd have to accumulate a lot more league points than every other competitor for 4th spot, so are starting from in most cases a significant handicap.

I thought despite being in a rebuilding phase, 4th might just have been achievable had we satrted the season well, but I'd reckon we've given ourselves too much to do.

Add into the mix the injury problems we've got, Solomona probably not going to be featuring, the promising Crookes eliminated from the centres, Deacon's recurring problems, the absence of Morro etc., and it would start to look like expecting a minor miracle.

Realistically what I'd like is to settle down to less of a mercurial level of performance, improve on errors and ball retention and discipline, and probably top of the list, sort out the defensive frailties. (Though of course Wagga, Solo and Morro being out doesn't help that either). More games where we can walk away, win lose or draw, not feeling choked or apoplectic or just plain baffled.

And I'd love to see some of the young 'uns getting fair opportunities to come in from time to time and show what they can do (and not, as some were advocating, be thrown to the lions away at Saints)

didnt realise you were watching leeds too lol

if our defence was shocking i would perhaps agree. but really its just wishful thinking on your part. your prayers have not be answerd yet my bulls friend.

until the quins game our attack was as good as anyone around us(saints not included)

saints have shipped 70 odd points in 2 games. theres no crisis there.

agreed leeds need to work on the attack. but its more go forward and kicking game related. put our backs at the right end of the field and we will be ok. we did just rip hudds appart in attack 12 days ago so im optamistic

Sums things up rather well IMO.

If we see some increased consistency, improvement and eradication of errors then that's good. If we see a few of the kids get a chance too that would be good.

Top 4 would be a minor miracle when you consider who's missing and our lack of consistency so far this season.

I asked first.

Disagree totally.

















It would be an absolute ****ing major miracle and I'll borrow Bullseye's hat to eat if we do!!

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Hmmm.
The odds for a Top-4 finish are notionally [url=http://www.extrabet.com/dealing/sport/home.htm?locale=en_GB&webSiteId=xtb#navbar=http%3A//www.extrabet.com/dealing/sport/hierarchy/events.htm%3FhierarchyLevelThreeId%3DRGLAAABAAB8S%26hierarchyLevelTwoId%3DRGLAAAB%26hierarchyLevelOneId%3DRGL%26businessArea%3DS%26oddsTypes%3DF%26wow%3D1241007601361&tab=6/1[/url

But . . . if you haven't bet with them before then they will match your stake up to £20.

What the [ieffect[/i is, for the uninitiated is to make the odds on this bet 12/1. I still doubt we will do it, but at 12/1 it is far too big odds for me to resist, plus I am betting with considerable sums of the bookies' money in light of recent events. And so I have had a bit of that.

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Can I respectfully suggest you take large wads of that up to Edinburgh & drown me in Waggledance?

Top four = top two of 'the rest'. None of which have been massively convincing as yet. Indeed, the ones with the best record currently we're widely derided on here as easybeats that we should have dispatched comfortably at Odsal.

Waggle Dance is unlikely to feature, but the awesome
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...should be near the top of any self-respecting drinker's list

70/- or heavy for me then. I'm a tad wary of pubs where men have their hands on their waste like that though.

The Edinburgh Uni bacteriology department is just round the corner.

I'm going to get away from pretentious bleedin academics for a few days.

Well I would bet you a grand that we will be in the play-offs for a start. Quins wasn't long ago, neither was Salford so get off your high horse. Bradford have been shocking all season and have managed to beat the top 3 teams from last season.

yeah so did cas last year!! where did they finish!!

and there is no shame in getting beat in this league mate!! if you dont turn up ready to play or you are off the pace you will get beat!!

i get nervy enough following leeds without a bet like that and we have been to 4 GF's in 5 years so no thanks. i dont have a bet in the ground as i think it will jinx the team. but i will bet you a pint if your over 18?

al i will say is mate defence wins titles and as long that is in good nick at the rhinos i still feel good about things and we still have the best D in the league by quite a bit.

ps when did you beat hull kr?

We didn't. I said the top 3 teams from last season. We drew with them anyway

well yeah again i say so did cas where did they finish.

do you want to bet that pint or not?

Is that on if we make 10th or the play-offs?

Indeed.



The kids part being the key part for me. This should then set the foundations for seasons to come



With how the season has gone so far, I'm ruling nothing out.

To be honest if we can make 7th or 8th it will have been a good year the way we have been playing.

the play offs was the bet

If we finish lower than 4th combined with the early cup exit this season has to be classed as amajor failure.

See the fifth column is regrouping.

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Flippancy aside, "yes" it is possible, though like others have already posted, my head tells me it's improbable (which is why I usually follow what my heart thinks - so, yes)