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| Quote ="tigertot"I'm sure those loyal fans with emotional ties to the old grounds are staying/will stay away from WIre, Hudds, Wigan, Saints, HKR, Cas, Salford & Hull. That'll show 'em.'"
Difference is they all moved to new grounds. This looks like a thinly veiled method of getting us down to VP. We've been there before and it was massively unpopular. IF it was a case of moving directly a new stadium then, whilst people wouldnt like it, I'd say it could be pulled off. Its the 5/6 years at VP before any new stadium was built (if it ever was) thats the potential deal killer imo.
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| Quote ="mat"Difference is they all moved to new grounds. This looks like a thinly veiled method of getting us down to VP. We've been there before and it was massively unpopular. IF it was a case of moving directly a new stadium then, whilst people wouldnt like it, I'd say it could be pulled off. Its the 5/6 years at VP before any new stadium was built (if it ever was) thats the potential deal killer imo.'"
I don't see anywhere where playing at VP was the caveat.
I don't see anywhere that outlines it will 5/6 years at any venue
I don't see anywhere that suggests it is a deal breaker.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"I don't see anywhere where playing at VP was the caveat.
I don't see anywhere that outlines it will 5/6 years at any venue
I don't see anywhere that suggests it is a deal breaker.
Assumptions.com'"
Really?
Quote =" from YEP"In the short term, they would both play at one stadium as that would be the most economically viable option. Then, in five or six years’ time when the economy has fully recovered, we would be looking to move Bradford Sporting Club into one purpose-built stadium in the city.'"
looks like a pretty simple to understand statement that both clubs would be sharing one of current stadiums for 5/6 years. dont see how you can misunderstand that.
Given that odsal would need major upgrades to allow city to play their and its considerable cheaper to get out of the odsal lease compared to the city lease then its not much of an assumption to say the current stadium used would be VP.
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| Assumption is the mother of all f*** ups
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Assumption is the mother of all f*** ups
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Is the right answer. Especially given relative commercial land values of each facility and noises emanating from VP.
If we were to play there, the problem is....?
Or shall we continue playing at a money juicing hole and little hope for progression with the current structure?
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| A "Bradford Sporting Club" is an absolutely terrible idea. A single organisation owning and controlling the local RL club and the football club didn't work for Huddersfield and I've no doubt it won't in Bradford.
In fact the ill feeling and bitterness this would cause would only serve to drive a wedge further between the two sports clubs when really they should be working together (as two seperate entities).
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"A "Bradford Sporting Club" is an absolutely terrible idea. A single organisation owning and controlling the local RL club and the football club didn't work for Huddersfield and I've no doubt it won't in Bradford.'"
I once had a bad restaurant meal. On that premise I will never eat out again. The past doesn't indicate the future.
Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"In fact the ill feeling and bitterness this would cause would only serve to drive a wedge further between the two sports clubs when really they should be working together (as two seperate entities).'"
Ill feeling perpetuated by s with little positivism in their lives.. Let it ride.
Your last 7 words are the most salient.
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| Quote I'm sure those loyal fans with emotional ties to the old grounds are staying/will stay away from WIre, Hudds, Wigan, Saints, HKR, Cas, Salford & Hull. That'll show 'em.'"
Bit different really as they went to brand new stadiums, whereas we're moving to a different stadium. It's not really the stadium thats the problem, its the area. Its digusting and vile. Not easiest place to get to, limited parking. Car Radio's at a premium!!
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| Quote ="Paul124897"www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/5357/BRADFORD%20BULLS%20CHAIRMAN%20COMMENTS%20ON%20%E2%80%98TAKEOVER%E2%80%99%20APPROACH'"
"Speaking from his office at Odsal stadium" oh well that makes it all the more poignant then.
Parkin has clearly elicited a response. Job done. He may well have spoken to Caisley or other shareholders who haven't told Hood. Who knows.
Nothing in his response of value other than an expected knee-jerk rebuttal.
As for the 21st century stadium. Ok.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"thats the problem, its the area. Its digusting and vile. Not easiest place to get to, '"
Really, quite an extremist repsonse. It's easier to get to for those not wedded to their car or object to walking more than 100m. There are one or two decent pubs around & a host of curry houses. The ground itself is very good if lacking in character (see Wire, Hudds etc).
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| Although it would pain me to see us move away from odsal for a while, i have to agree with Tigertot, the ground isnt all that bad and has the facilities the club need to keep a license,
I live 5 mins away from odsal and love the fact at how close it is - BUT i have no issue with following my team wherever thay may go .......................
ASSUMING being the key word it was to ever happen !!!
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/the-sin-bin/bradford_bulls_hood_plays_down_takeover_talk_1_3478245
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From "not" discussing it with shareholders to now directors. Hmmmm'"
Not sure what point you are making. All the words in the YEP article are in the original Bulls' website article. It looks to me as though the YEP journalist has cut and pasted from that statement, shifting a couple of sentences around and leaving a couple out. If you're suggesting that Hood has changed his tune, I can't see support for that view from here.
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| Quote ="Bulls1989"Its got nightmare all over it'"
Yep.
I don't have an issue with sharing a stadium if that's what's required. Valley Parade wouldn't be my first choice but if it was needed I'd back a move there.
But the idea of the two clubs becoming one organisation is a shocker.
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| Whilst there are examples of one organisation covering separate league & union rugby clubs - with varying degrees of success - I think the only recent example of football & rugby getting together was Sir john Hall's experiment with all the pro teams in Newcastle which withered as the football club effectively subsidised the rugby, basketball, netball etc.
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| Think Wigan counts as a recent example too. Think it's fair to say Wigan rl fans aren't too happy with arrangements. Having their fixtures swapped around to accommodate football side and even having to give up home advantage in a playoff game spring to mind as recent problems with arrangement.
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| Quote ="mat"Think Wigan counts as a recent example too. Think it's fair to say Wigan rl fans aren't too happy with arrangements. Having their fixtures swapped around to accommodate football side and even having to give up home advantage in a playoff game spring to mind as recent problems with arrangement.'"
I'm speaking from bitter experience as a Huddersfield Town fan. The bitterness, half truths, ignorance and small mindedness works both ways there. Just look at the comments about Town from most of the people on the Giants board or the ones about the Giants on the DATM Town board.
This is the opposite of what is needed in Bradford right now. I'd like to see things like the option of a joint season ticket so that people (who wanted to) could gain a bigger discount over buying two different season tickets or ticket offers at each offered to the other club's season ticket holders (say a couple of vouchers for ten pound Bulls tickets in the City season ticket). Not under the ownership.
Obviously I couldn't give 2 s about Bradford City if I'm honest but whats good for one is good for the other and IMO the two boards should work closer together. But the two clubs must keep their own identities.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I'm speaking from bitter experience as a Huddersfield Town fan. The bitterness, half truths, ignorance and small mindedness works both ways there. Just look at the comments about Town from most of the people on the Giants board or the ones about the Giants on the DATM Town board. '"
Brilliant. I'm a Peterborough fan. Did you prefer Old Trafford in 2011 or Leeds Road in 1992?
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| Quote ="Stul"Brilliant. I'm a Peterborough fan. Did you prefer Old Trafford in 2011 or Leeds Road in 1992?'"
Town were second best throughout the whole game not just the 8 minutes when the goals went in to no complaints from me.
Your chairman though is nothing more than timeshare selling wideboy and - because of his comments outside Peterborough town hall on the monday afterwards - I can't wait to pass you in the other direction next year. Also your most famous fan is Adrian Durham from Talksport.
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| I have little doubt that Steve Parkin would be a better owner than the clowns running Bradford City at the moment, but he just seems like he is desperate to get a piece of any sports club he can to raise his profile/satisfy his ego.
I've heard rumours of him being linked with City for ages, the Bulls thing was a surprise to me this morning and I can't see it coming off.
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| IF Steve Parkin wants to put his money where his mouth is and actually open up a dialogue with the club and that what he proposes will ultimately benefit the Bulls then I for one welcome him with open arms. However, I still remain sceptical that it will happen or that what happens will benefit us
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| If the rumours are true from people I respect, he has thought about buying Wakey at least once, maybe twice, but stalled because there was no guarantee of a franchise (he purportedly met with the RFL to seek this guarantee). The feeling I always had was that he was more interested in the proposed new Wakey ground as much as the club, and had some vision of a "Sporting Wakefield" organisation, incorporating Guisely, or a Wakefield football team, as well as us. Whilst I would undoubtedly welcome his cash to Wakey, there was always a feeling for me that he was seeking to pursue his football ambitions more than his rugby ones.
If you get him and he takes you back to the top, good luck, hope it works out. You certainly have the potential. Wakey's potential is there, I think, but it hasn't been proven yet, whereas yours has.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"IF Steve Parkin wants to put his money where his mouth is and actually open up a dialogue with the club and that what he proposes will ultimately benefit the Bulls then I for one welcome him with open arms. However, I still remain sceptical that it will happen or that what happens will benefit us'"
Tend to agree.
This guy hasn't covered himself in glory with this hamfisted approach (if it's actually true that any approach has been made) seemingly done via the media. Very professional .
[iIF[/i he seriously has any aspirations to bring all this about then he needs to approach the club, via the proper channels, and talk to the people running it. The whole story screams of ulterior motives to me.
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