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| Quote ="Northernrelic"What was the slogan from a few decades ago - Bradford's Bouncing Back?'"
It's this years' I cringe at the most... Yep, maybe we are where we #Belong.
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| Quote ="Quorn_Bull"With each passing week and every try conceded it does feel like relegation is becoming more of a certainty than a possibility and whilst it is true relegation would be a terrible thing for every aspect of the club in the short term I genuinely believe we will come out of this stronger on the other side.
My reasons for believing this stem from my other sporting love Blackburn Rovers (I know I will lose a few people here). Blackburn were in the same postion two years ago that the Bulls are now:
Facing relegation
Legitimate question marks over the coaches credentials
Accusations that the players don't care or are at the very least bereft of all confidence
Dwindling crowds
Gross mismanagement at every level of the club
As most of you will probably know Blackburn didn't avoid the drop and it would be fair to say that our first season in the second tier was disastrous. As the next season approached it was clear that there was a change in the approach from the club, expensive journeyman were discarded in favour of young (predominantly) British players. As a result of this there seemed to be a hunger on the pitch which had been missing previously and despite not gaining promotion the season which has just finished was the most enjoyable for many years.
If the Bulls do get relegated the squad will be ripped apart but in reality is there anyone you will miss watching? If we can keep some of the youngsters who obviously care about the club (Wood, Mellor, O'Brien & Conroy spring to mind) I believe we can get back to a team that we are proud to watch whether they win, lose or draw.
Maybe this is just my way of trying to find a silver lining but I am cautiously optimistic about what the future has in store for us.'"
1. I cling to the thought that at least our season ticket should be cheaper.
2. As soon as I saw that dog on the pitch at Catalan it put me in mind of the Venky chickens and how we could replicate it...
3. I dunno if I posted a Championship team last weekend but I certainly ended up thinking of who would stay and bit in it. turns out about 75% of the squad:
FB, W, Wood, Arundel, Kear, L Pryce*, Brook, Sidlow, O'Brien, P, Olbison, Addy, Walker. Subs: Conroy, Roberts, Mellor, Bates.
*(I reckon he'll have a swansong season)
I also think we'll end up with a few players like Chris Clarkson at Leeds or some other West Yorkshire youngsters.
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| I agree with you about Leon. When I watched him on TV last week I thought I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back to us in the championship when he has finished earning top money in SL. I see him giving us a couple of years before he hangs up his boots. I would also like to see someone like Fielden set on as assistant so he can start his coaching career helping us out. Didn't Karl Harrison start with us as an assistant?
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| I suspect Leon is after, and will get, will get another deal in Perpignan.
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| Does anyone else find the comments earlier this week by Marc Green slightly odd. Fair enough he has backed Francis Cummins but then cited a number of reasons such as losing backroom staff for the poor performances. Surely Cummins still has the list of all the backroom staff who were dismissed due to the admin, I would have thought bringing them back in (the ones that were available/wanted to come back) would have been a priority of both him & the new owner. The fact that they haven't been replaced, along with the lack of signings (other than loans) does make me slightly concerned as to why not.
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| Can't see Leon coming back, unless he was looking at coaching, even then I don't think it would be Bradford.
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| Quote ="bradfordlegend"Does anyone else find the comments earlier this week by Marc Green slightly odd. Fair enough he has backed Francis Cummins but then cited a number of reasons such as losing backroom staff for the poor performances. Surely Cummins still has the list of all the backroom staff who were dismissed due to the admin, I would have thought bringing them back in (the ones that were available/wanted to come back) would have been a priority of both him & the new owner. The fact that they haven't been replaced, along with the lack of signings (other than loans) does make me slightly concerned as to why not.'"
The reason that they went is because we couldn't afford them. Nothing has changed, in fact things are probably worse. Revenue is probably down due to the lower crowds and prospects of Championship rugby.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"The reason that they went is because we couldn't afford them. '"
Don't let FA catch you saying that.
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| Quote ="Wooden Stand"Don't let FA catch you saying that.'" Yes its clearly not the full story. The full reason is because the non playing staff are so much easier and cheaper to release than players, nor would there be an issue with salary cap. clearly cheaper to pay a few weeks redundancy than the rest of a two year contract AND pay another cheaper replacement player. That way you end up paying more for a worse player. Clearly stupid to all except compulsive-obsessive trolls.
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| Quote ="Wooden Head"Don't let FA catch you saying that.'"
Hey, a gratuitous oblique barb randomly flies in my direction! Splendid! That's what we need more of on the forum, gratuitous oblique barbs. They add so much.
What's the matter, still smarting from you regular humiliations, and thought you could sneak a little dig under the radar?
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"1. I cling to the thought that at least our season ticket should be cheaper.
2. As soon as I saw that dog on the pitch at Catalan it put me in mind of the Venky chickens and how we could replicate it...
3. I dunno if I posted a Championship team last weekend but I certainly ended up thinking of who would stay and bit in it. turns out about 75% of the squad:
FB, W, Wood, Arundel, Kear, L Pryce*, Brook, Sidlow, O'Brien, P, Olbison, Addy, Walker. Subs: Conroy, Roberts, Mellor, Bates.
*(I reckon he'll have a swansong season)
I also think we'll end up with a few players like Chris Clarkson at Leeds or some other West Yorkshire youngsters.'"
I have been given to understand that we have been docked another two points for having another unregistered player at the Catalan Game ........Peppi le Dog??????
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"I have been given to understand that we have been docked another two points for having another unregistered player at the Catalan Game ........Peppi le Dog??????'"
Oh do come on and be fair - it was obvious they didn't know the dog, it barely looked at them. The fact they also didn't appear to know each other was totally beside the point and can't be used in evidence..
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| Quote ="Rarebreed"I have been given to understand that we have been docked another two points for having another unregistered player at the Catalan Game ........Peppi le Dog??????'"
No, I'm almost certain it was Terrier Holmes
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No, I'm almost certain it was Terrier Holmes'"
Hence only being on for five minutes.
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| This one's got it licked
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| Interesting article on the BBC site today re comments from the London manager Grima. They are certainly being open about their plan B - though in their case plan A went out of the window some time ago.
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| Strange that "SL quality players" are prepared to commit to the team which, as of right now, is the one most Observers, both amongst the pros and the fans, feel is definitely one of those to go down.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Strange that "SL quality players" are prepared to commit to the team which, as of right now, is the one most Observers, both amongst the pros and the fans, feel is definitely one of those to go down.
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Depends on their definition of SL quality players. If they include anyone who's ever made a SL appearance before rapidly dropping down to championship level then there's plenty out their.
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| If they're signing SL quality players, they'll surely have a better side in 2015 than 2014?
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| It's called long term planning..
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| Which it looks as if Green/Ferres are doing by looking to improve the youth setup with a performance manager. In the new (ie old) promotion and relegation era it is sugar daddy teams that will usually rule, but a good youth system will be a big help.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"If they're signing SL quality players, they'll surely have a better side in 2015 than 2014?'"
Obviously though, with the reduced salary cap, their players will be SL quality but on championship salaries if London are to be believed.
Why do more clubs not do that? It would solve a lot of problems.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"Which it looks as if Green/Ferres are doing by looking to improve the youth setup with a performance manager. In the new (ie old) promotion and relegation era it is sugar daddy teams that will usually rule, but a good youth system will be a big help.'"
Yeah, I agree and to be honest I think Paul Medley will be a hard act to follow in the junior set-up. It would be interesting to read the views of people who have had a more direct relationship with it, maybe with their youngsters in the academy.
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| Which juniors, developed by the Medley regime, have progressed to full SL players? I saw some great junior teams at Cas but you are lucky if more than 1 or 2 each year actually make it. That shows the scale of investment needed to continually feed the first team. Leeds & Wigan seem to have a bigger pool of talent to choose from than most, hence the number of top local lads in their teams.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Which juniors, developed by the Medley regime, have progressed to full SL players? I saw some great junior teams at Cas but you are lucky if more than 1 or 2 each year actually make it. That shows the scale of investment needed to continually feed the first team. Leeds & Wigan seem to have a bigger pool of talent to choose from than most, hence the number of top local lads in their teams.'"
Agreed local lads like Seinfeld, Watkins and Mccillorum just want to play for their hometown teams
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