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| It's an utter disgrace. Okay he was fouled but it was not malicious purely instictive. It was a penalty full stop. Problem is that Ratboy was knocked out and according to Statler & Waldorf on Sky, he is the greatest player in the game bar none. That fact alone meant GR was doomed from the start. The video refs should not be allowed to watch the replay in slow motion, it distorts the reality. Eddie and Stevo are now influencing the referees.
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| Quote ="debaser"So at full speed, live, you thought red card? You were in a very small minority then. [size=150The BBC commentators missed it[/size, the crowd missed it. It took lots of replays for most to spot it. So to say the replays had no influence on the outcome is ridiculous.'"
Hardly suprising.... Day they know what day it was?
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| Quote ="RoyFrancis"It's an utter disgrace. Okay he was fouled but it was not malicious purely instictive. It was a penalty full stop. Problem is that Ratboy was knocked out and according to Statler & Waldorf on Sky, he is the greatest player in the game bar none. That fact alone meant GR was doomed from the start. The video refs should not be allowed to watch the replay in slow motion, it distorts the reality. Eddie and Stevo are now influencing the referees.'"
VR was used when Andy Coley was sent off at Catalans last year apparently. Seems it has happened before i have been very reliably informed. The tackle was reckless, thats enough to warrant the punbishment under the rules, end of. Incidently, Sam got a ban earlier in the season when he was 3rd or 4th man into a bit of biff, so he gets targetted by the refs too.
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| Quote ="RoyFrancis"It's an utter disgrace. Okay he was fouled but it was not malicious purely instictive. It was a penalty full stop. Problem is that Ratboy was knocked out and according to Statler & Waldorf on Sky, he is the greatest player in the game bar none. That fact alone meant GR was doomed from the start. The video refs should not be allowed to watch the replay in slow motion, it distorts the reality. Eddie and Stevo are now influencing the referees.'"
Instinctive is when someone changes direction & a player shoots his arm out & invariably catches the other player high. No way was Raynor's tackle instinctive, whether he was aiming for the head or arm is a different matter. The next time Ryan Bailey swings his arm across an opposing players chest to dislodge or clamp the ball, misses completely & knocks the player unconscious I am sure you will all support his defence it was an accident, he shouldn't be sent off or banned.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Yes and one of those games was at Castleford and the referee in question was Steve Ganson asking video referee David Campbell "if it was serious" to Ganson said "ok so it's serious" cue the red card and Castleford down to twelve men.'"
Now we have established Ganson, the RFL & Al Qaeda had not hatched another secret plan & trialled it on the Bulls you will all be eating humble pie & apologising?
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| Quote ="tigertot"Now we have established Ganson, the RFL & Al Qaeda had not hatched another secret plan & trialled it on the Bulls you will all be eating humble pie & apologising?'"
It's Cummings plan not Gansons
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| Quote ="tigertot"Now we have established Ganson, the RFL & Al Qaeda had not hatched another secret plan & trialled it on the Bulls you will all be eating humble pie & apologising?'"
Since no-one alleged Al Qaeda was involved, the question is academic.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Since no-one alleged Al Qaeda was involved, the question is academic.'"
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| Quote ="tigertot"Meh, the inference is there for all to see.'"
Indeed it is.
You clearly implied we all blamed Al Qaeda for the sending off. For shame, sir.
You really need to stop getting all your news in ilkley just from the Daily Telegraph, and instead keep a bit more up to date with world affairs in the 21st century.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed it is.
You clearly implied we all blamed Al Qaeda for the sending off. For shame, sir.
You really need to stop getting all your news in ilkley just from the Daily Telegraph, and instead keep a bit more up to date with world affairs in the 21st century.'"
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed it is.
You clearly implied we all blamed Al Qaeda for the sending off. For shame, sir.
You really need to stop getting all your news in ilkley just from the Daily Telegraph, and instead keep a bit more up to date with world affairs in the 21st century.'"
The Torygraph is too left wing for Ilkley. Only the Mail is good enough for us. I'd missed the bit where Ed Miliband is implicated as well.
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| Quote ="phillgee"I thought TT is a Mail reader?'"
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| I think he reads the Excess too, on the quiet, since it seems to be trying to out-react the Mail these days with headlines like "Milliband pig-dog ate my hamster and we are all going to die and its all the EU's fault"
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| In order to restore political neutrality to this board, the Daily Mirror is blaming Margaret Thatcher for Raynor's ban. Arthur Scargill is on his way to Red Hall as we speak to form a picket line and stand round a brazier burning effigies of the milk snatcher and Steve 'Tory Boy' Ganson.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I think he reads the Excess too, on the quiet, since it seems to be trying to out-react the Mail these days with headlines like "Milliband pig-dog ate my hamster and we are all going to die and its all the EU's fault"
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| Quote ="tigertot"Like it. I'm sure they are blaming Raynor for the death of Princess Di as well. Or at least he looks that sort.'"
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| Quote ="tigertot"The next time Ryan Bailey swings his arm across an opposing players chest to dislodge or clamp the ball, misses completely & knocks the player unconscious I am sure you will all support his defence it was an accident, he shouldn't be sent off or banned.'"
No I'd now expect the ref to go to the video ref, red card him if the VR says so, then expect Bailey to get a 2 match ban and a fine. Thats the precedent thats been set and that we should expect to be followed from now on.
Also Tomkins did change direction while Raynor was making the tackle, he started to dive at the ground. Thats whats made the difference on where the hit went in. And a 2 foot drop between start and end of the tackle is entirely possible at the speed he was going.
I don't go in for these consipracy theories though, the refs are just this bad and I suspect most on the this board pay less attention to the howlers that happen to other teams.
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| Quote ="jockabull":kzczq8twNo I'd now expect the ref to go to the video ref, red card him if the VR says so, then expect Bailey to get a 2 match ban and a fine. Thats the precedent thats been set and that we should expect to be followed from now on.'"
Massive credit to Ganson for being up with the play to see the offence. Something no Bradford player managed.
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| I am still looking forward to a ref going to the VR for the next high tackle.
Oh but only if there is a VR there obviously.
But I won't hold my breath.
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| Its a YES from me. Thought Raynor was stupid to do what he did. Was reckless and on the goal-line. Could have prevented a try. Red-card was the correct decision and a deserved fine for Raynor. Not sure about the games banned. Could have gone either way. Spot on about the consistency of referees this season. The only referee that has showed consistency this season and hasn't bowed down under pressure is Mr. Ganson.
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| Nothing new here, the VR was asked about the Adrian Morley tackle when he was sent off after 12 secs for GB.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Nothing new here, the VR was asked about the Adrian Morley tackle when he was sent off after 12 secs for GB.'"
But they only did that because the RFL knew he would play for the BUlls 2 years later.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Nothing new here, the VR was asked about the Adrian Morley tackle when he was sent off after 12 secs for GB.'"
Did he ????
I cant remember them going to the VR, i thought he just pulled the red straight out and sent him off
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"Did he ????
I cant remember them going to the VR, i thought he just pulled the red straight out and sent him off
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He did only pull the red card out 65 seconds after the incident though.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Watching this one back you may be right. I seem to remember him asking the VR was it a clear head shot, however watching it on Youtube, Stevo is ranting over it! I wish they would keep quiet!
He did only pull the red card out 65 seconds after the incident though.'"
I think they tend to wait for the player to get up and make sure they are ok before issuing cards dont they, in this case i think Robbie Kearns was up quite sharpish..........................
And as for Stevo, well............................... i dont know why he bothers tbh !!!
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