The point is that Herbert was last gasp option when we got messed about by Orford - essentially he was all that was available for that season, and was shipped off - rightly - at the end of that season.

Gale is the guy that was chosen for the role, handed the vice captaincy and a better contract. We constantly hear about how good he is, how the team will be built around him etc.

You can't compare those two circumstances really

For that reason, I'm more disappointed with what Gale does - or doesn't do - than I ever was with Herbert.

Briggs was head and shoulders better than both. As is Sammut.... as was Addy.
Gale being here over 2 years and given 2 new contracts look dreadful decisions.

On the original question Herbert was slightly worse but it's close.

I totally agree if Briggs had been given the game time and patience we have shown Gale I think he would be a great player now . We would have probably have lost him in the financial crisisinstead of him going back to featherstone . Even the full back we got from Halifax that had one season with us was a million times better at passing and making breaks. (I can't remember his name tho sorry )

Shad Royston?

I think you rare remembering Briggs through rose-tinted glasses. If he was good enough he would have been snapped up by now. Look at how Powell has made an excellent scrum half out of the average Sneyd.

correct, ME. prefered to move to Pia iirc, saw what was coming.

Oh and how much leadership did our captain show last night. Slamming the ball down at PTB cos be bad no runners. YOUR MEANT TO ORGANISE THE RUNNERS YOU ABSOLUTE TOOL.

Gale is dire. Any positive 'glimpses' I've seen from him (and I'm really testing my memory here) have been against very weak opposition. A captaining halfback that can't pass, has a poor tactical kicking game, rarely if ever, takes on the line makes him a liability in an already weak team. Worse still, we are completely stuck with him.

Gale is poor at the moment, his passing is wild a lot of the time with the recipient reaching over his head to get the ball it like he panics when he's has somebody running at him so throws a panic pass all the time

Briggs was way out his depth, some fans seemed to develop a belief that he was a rough diamond that could of been a SL star if given a chance. I'm not impressed with what Gale is producing but I don't really see why he is the scapegoat in all of this. I suspect fans see a lack of creativity I often pin the blame solely on the halfback without considering the whole picture.

Our forwards aren't getting us on the front foot and teams know if they kick deep and get us playing out of our own 20 we are easily contained. Our wingers are too lightweight to gain metres early in the tackle count and when we do get close to the opposition line if often ends up being a desperate play.

Gale took the line on a bit last night and with some success, unfortunately our support play is also non existent. Anyone who makes a half break is usually on their own.

Not rose tinted at all. Briggs has a pretty ordinary skill set, a decent last tackle kick, made breaks and was poor in defence. Borderline Super League standard. All in all much better than Luke Gale

His kicking out of his hands is hopeless. His last tackle plays, worse. Briggs got half a dozen games, Gale's had 2 1/2 years and was chosen over and above Sammut. Nobody's saying our forwards are helping. They're asking about the coaches call on the number 7 shirt and they're right.

Was he? I was under the impression that Sammut was sold by the administrator to Wakefield.

Gale has been consistently poor since he arrived, a number of fans including myself said he wasn't good enough, but we were told to give him time (apparently he's a class act!!!) and the usual excuses were made. He's had more than enough time and he hasn't improved at all, he's shown slight glimmers of talent but at the end of the day, unfortunately, he's just not very good and we're now stuck with him.

Herbert was amazing

Don't...

To be fair I thought Gale was ok in 2012, where we had big forceful pack, but even then I wouldn't have thought you'd build a team around him as Cummins has done by extending his contract and confirming that Gale and Gaskell would be in front of Sammut!

Head and shoulders above Gale & Herbert is not 'bordering' on SL standard. Gale is a decent player, as good as Briggs, he is just lost without a dominant team around him. I remember the Bulls best SH of the 20th century being equally lost behind a much better team.

Shad Royston 20games 12 trys . Luke Gale 45 games 9 trys marc Herbert 21games 4trys

Royston was not too bad IMO. We have certainly had much worse over the last few years.

In regards to the OP, I would have to say, that on expectation levels alone, Gale is the bigger disappointment. He was supposed to be our main playmaker and the one to make us tick. A pre-planned, identified, quality signing. Herbert was more of a desperation signing that never worked out.

However, Gale at least has a suitable haircut, something which could not be said about Herbert.

Hairist.

I prefer "hair envy" TT.

Why would anyone with hair have a mullet? Because they can.

Hair is over rated.

I have never seen Gale come up with anything noteworthy and said it a while ago.Whoever offered him a LT contract while letting such as Sammut go wants his borlox chopping off and if that was you Cummins then you should go on that alone never mind the spineless displays your team is serving up to long suffering fans.
Disenchanted doesn't come close.