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| Quote ="Roofaldo"TBH I don't think ANY player should be an automatic selection. My point was that Deacon has hardly been setting the world alight over the last few years (when fit that is) and yet he seems to get picked regardless. Yes, he did put in a good performance against Wakey but, IMO, he needs to continue and improve those performances'" I agree with all that. But it's not the original point that you made.
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| By no means was it the worst game he has had; a good ball to Langley (who I'd just said to my mate seconds earlier had not made a break in 3 years) & went through a gap before realising he has no pace & was a bit lost for ideas. His kicking was poor by his standards & he was trampled all over in the seond half.
The big bonus was Jeffries, who was absolutely outstanding in attack. The pace he took the line on was devastating. In a weekend where no-one really stood out as player of the tournament, I would give it to BJ. Big rap also to Sykes, who had the best game I've seen him have in a Bulls shirt.
I'd agree about Myler, looks an outstanding prospect. I think there might be a bit of competition for his services, unfortunatley for Bradford. Saints would be my bet. (One of the rumours I heard was Pryce is out due to his external activities, with Eastmond taking over (will never happen in m book)).
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| Quote ="tigertot"By no means was it the worst game he has had; a good ball to Langley (who I'd just said to my mate seconds earlier had not made a break in 3 years) & went through a gap before realising he has no pace & was a bit lost for ideas. His kicking was poor by his standards & he was trampled all over in the seond half.
The big bonus was Jeffries, who was absolutely outstanding in attack. The pace he took the line on was devastating. In a weekend where no-one really stood out as player of the tournament, I would give it to BJ. Big rap also to Sykes, who had the best game I've seen him have in a Bulls shirt.
I'd agree about Myler, looks an outstanding prospect. I think there might be a bit of competition for his services, unfortunatley for Bradford. Saints would be my bet. (One of the rumours I heard was Pryce is out due to his external activities, with Eastmond taking over (will never happen in m book)).'"
I would like to see Myler at Bradford but I'd probably go with Saints aswell. Wouldn't mind Pryce back if he was released but would have to watch him carefully off-pitch
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| [url=http://www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=175154Option?[/url Menzies gives us a possible inside track.
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| Quote ="af"[url=http://www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=175154Option?[/url Menzies gives us a possible inside track.'"
that rumours been round a bit - cant see us being able to outbid wire tbh.
plus he'd be nearly 32 at beginning of next season - which whilst not over the hill is gettin on a bit for a half so hardly a long term solution. We need to be looking at someone mid twenties who we can build round for a few seasons imo.
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| Quote ="mat"that rumours been round a bit - cant see us being able to outbid wire tbh.'"
Suspect the playing field may be a little bit more level now though, thanks to the worthy gentlemen of HMRC? But also suspect the likes of Wire will still manage to rustle up image rights deals from unconnected third parties to blow others away though. Sorry, I meant the player's agent will be able to...
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| Quote ="af"[url=http://www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=175154Option?[/url Menzies gives us a possible inside track.'"
Bit old, wouldn't be long term. I'd rather have Myler.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I'd rather have Myler.'"
So would I.
How long is he tied into a deal at Salford?
We could ask Robbie to have a word in his ear!
I'd still have Orford though.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"So would I.
How long is he tied into a deal at Salford?
We could ask Robbie to have a word in his ear!
I'd still have Orford though.'"
I would have him, but it wouldn't be a long term solution. Not sure about Myler but if he does end up going I doubt it will be to us.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"So would I.
How long is he tied into a deal at Salford?We could ask Robbie to have a word in his ear!
I'd still have Orford though.'"
on contract at salford till end of 2010 season.
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| If Myler arrived you might as well just tell young Liam Kay sorry son we don't think your good enough.
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| Quote ="redeverready"If Myler arrived you might as well just tell young Liam Kay sorry son we don't think your good enough.'"
How has he been coming on?
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| Quote ="redeverready"If Myler arrived you might as well just tell young Liam Kay sorry son we don't think your good enough.'"
how far off first team is kay? going by fact he didnt even get named in squad during deacs absence suggests coaching staff dont thinks he ready yet.
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| Quote ="mat"how far off first team is kay? going by fact he didnt even get named in squad during deacs absence suggests coaching staff dont thinks he ready yet.'" We've still got Deacon for another 18 months. So Kay isn't needed for the now is he.
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| Quote ="redeverready"We've still got Deacon for another 18 months. So Kay isn't needed for the now is he.'"
deacons increasingly injury prone though. hopefully we'll retain jeffries next year but we cant go into next season with just deacon and jeffries as available halves unless we're pretty confident that academy lads are at stage that we can rely on them to step up if injuries strike. tbh cant see deacon being anything more than injury cover next year. Has been a great player for us but he's losing his pace rapidly and his kicking game ( conversions apart) is deteriorating- probably due to recurring injuries.
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| Quote ="mat"deacons increasingly injury prone though. hopefully we'll retain jeffries next year but we cant go into next season with just deacon and jeffries as available halves unless we're pretty confident that academy lads are at stage that we can rely on them to step up if injuries strike. tbh cant see deacon being anything more than injury cover next year. Has been a great player for us but he's losing his pace rapidly and his kicking game ( conversions apart) is deteriorating- probably due to recurring injuries.'" So you think Myler would come in to be a back up here.
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| Quote ="redeverready"So you think Myler would come in to be a back up here.'"
nope myler would be coming as first choice with deacs as backup and jeffries at standoff. although if you read posts I never said anything about wanting myler. I just said when his salford deal ran out in response to someone elses question.
my personal preference would be to retain jeffries but move him to halfback, where I feel he plays a lot better, and sign an out and out standoff on a longish deal. retain deacon as backup for a year (but only because 50k of his deal doesnt count on cap). Jeffries is thirty next year so he wont be blocking kays path for more than a year or two. with hopefully kay filling in for injuries in 2010 season and then gradually being filtered in during 2011 season.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Sorry but that point is a little confusing. Hasn't today shown that he is an automatic selection. After all he was brought straight back in to the side after the side had played well the week before. IMO it would have been a fair call if he'd been at the top of his game before his injury but he wasn't.'"
Deacon will now lead us onto more glory & cups in 2009 !!
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| His pace is rapidly disappearing? He must have been Usain Bolt in his earlier years judging by the pace he showed on some of his breaks on Saturday.
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| Quote ="harigeorgeson"Deacon will now lead us onto more glory & cups in 2009 !!'"
Amen to that brother.
Was ever and still is a class act. Back to full fitness he's a certaintity to play.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"icon_thumb.gif Amen to that brother.
Was ever and still is a class act. Back to full fitness he's a certaintity to play.'"
And where does form come into this? Agreed he played very well for his first game back, but when he's off form he makes some terrible mistakes.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"TBH I don't think ANY player should be an automatic selection. My point was that Deacon has hardly been setting the world alight over the last few years (when fit that is) and yet he seems to get picked regardless. Yes, he did put in a good performance against Wakey but, IMO, he needs to continue and improve those performances'"
I don't see how selecting Deacon was an automatic one anyway, it would have been a hell of a difficult choice for Macca. Surely the choice would have been somewhat based on how things went in training that week?
Over the last few seasons we haven't had anyone else to pick in his place anyway, so your point is somewhat moot.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"And where does form come into this? Agreed he played very well for his first game back, but when he's off form he makes some terrible mistakes.'"
As you agreed he's on form now. So whats your problem with his selection?
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"As you agreed he's on form now. So whats your problem with his selection?'" Is he on form. He did somethings well but likewise he also did somethings poorly. IMO thats not being on form.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"As you agreed he's on form now. So whats your problem with his selection?'"
A few reglation passes counts as form.? See Jeffries for form.
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