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I'd be more than happy to have you liaise with the club as the 'voice of the fans' on this particular issue. You've mocked up some stunning kits mate.
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I'd be more than happy to have you liaise with the club as the 'voice of the fans' on this particular issue. You've mocked up some stunning kits mate.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"You've mocked up some stunning kits mate.'" Yes, especially this one:
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Re: The kits - I'm told the club have little say here. They are very much led by the kit supplier (the are they "experts"icon_wink.gif, the monitor UK, European and global trends and look at the best selling colours / designs from this.
Kind of makes sense, but I agree, some kind of fan interaction would be good in this area - it's difficult to please everyone though isn't it?
Out of interest, which away kits do people think have been the best sellers in the SL era?'"
Is it either the Big BLue one from c2000 or the green jack and jill one? I'm guessing they reckon traditional kits don't sell as well? My favourite away kit recently was the black centenary one.
If we don't have much say with Kooga maybe we should change to one where we do have more say? Surely the club is the customer in this relationship? I can't belive any global trands pointed to our current home kit being the way forward. Fair enough put out some outlandish away kits, thats part of the fun of the away kit, but please please please can we return to something like traditional for the home kit???
One thing I do agree with, there is no chance whatsoever that the club will please even half the peope half the time, esp when it comes to kits.
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| Quote ="Duckman" the green jack and jill one? I'm guessing they reckon traditional kits don't sell as well? '"
Correct and correct
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| I don't recall many incidents of football or rugby teams having kits designed by fans, for reasons Wigan Bull mentioned.
What they could ask suppliers to do as a minimum is come up with four or five designs and let fans have their say/vote on which they preferred, I know quite a few football teams have done that in the past, some do it annually now.
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| Quote ="Asim"What they could ask suppliers to do as a minimum is come up with four or five designs and let fans have their say/vote on which they preferred, I know quite a few football teams have done that in the past, some do it annually now.'"
In terms of the warmth the club would engender by involving the fans, doing so would surely be a shrewd move. It would be worth putting that to Mr Duffy for discussion at the fans forum perhaps?
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"In terms of the warmth the club would engender by involving the fans, doing so would surely be a shrewd move. It would be worth putting that to Mr Duffy for discussion at the fans forum perhaps?'"
Go on then. You might find it's a bit late in the day for next season though.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Correct and correct'"
Yea me
Quote ="Asim"I don't recall many incidents of football or rugby teams having kits designed by fans, for reasons Wigan Bull mentioned.
What they could ask suppliers to do as a minimum is come up with four or five designs and let fans have their say/vote on which they preferred, I know quite a few football teams have done that in the past, some do it annually now.'"
Thats more what I mean rather than one of us design it, and I'm sure either the Bulls or city have done that through the T&A before, a fair few years back I think. I think it would be a good idea.
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Every single one of those p155es all over the ones we have this year. Well done.
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Every single one of those p155es all over the ones we have this year. Well done.
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| Quote ="debaser"Every single one of those p155es all over the ones we have this year. Well done.
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totally agree
absolutley fantastic designs
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| Quote ="debaser"Every single one of those p155es all over the ones we have this year. Well done.
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Indeed. Well except the last "beer belly" one - would be good if we still had Solomona so they could all look like him
I'd like these colours for an away strip:
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| Quote ="Duckman"Yea me
Thats more what I mean rather than one of us design it, and I'm sure either the Bulls or city have done that through the T&A before, a fair few years back I think. I think it would be a good idea.'"
In the late 80's early 90's City held a competition in the T&A to actually design the kit, the winning entry was a diamond effort, which might have been fashionable at the time! The lad who won it was a friend's brother.
The company involved was a very small one though, City were probably their only major client - the bigger companies usually have stock templates that are simply tweaked for each club they provide kit for, so there is probably less chance of something unique being manufactured.
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| Quote ="Asim"I don't recall many incidents of football or rugby teams having kits designed by fans, for reasons Wigan Bull mentioned.
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I know Cas ran a competition last year, and they have their kit produced by Puma, who are a lot bigger than Kooga, Sheffield Wednesday also listened to fans views on their current home kit, and ran a vote for the away kit, again made by Puma.
Quote ="Wigan Bull"Re: The kits - I'm told the club have little say here. They are very much led by the kit supplier (the are they "experts"icon_wink.gif, the monitor UK, European and global trends and look at the best selling colours / designs from this.'"
Kooga must not be paying attention to the market then, because in RL, traditional designs are more popular than some of their futuristic designs, see Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Hull (2010 an exception).
In football traditional designs are also popular, you only have to look at the current Umbro range, simple and traditional designs, all popular with fans. Nike also have a selection of traditional designs out this year. Puma's traditional Sheffield Wednesday shirt is one of our best selling shirts ever, people want a shirt that people will see and associate with the club straight away.
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| Totally agree. Your kit designs are fantastic and though the Wigan Bull - Stuart dialogue is great, one thing that is ducked is why the refusal to contemplate some of the away kits designs that have been suggested - RAB hoops was clearly very popular on here, who are the people that bought this year's red with silver bananas effort that would have turned their noses up at RAB hoops?
I know that one off kits don't sell well, but we're not talking about just a retro shirt here, rather an away kit with retro elements.
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| Quote ="Asim"In the late 80's early 90's City held a competition in the T&A to actually design the kit, the winning entry was a diamond effort, which might have been fashionable at the time! The lad who won it was a friend's brother.
The company involved was a very small one though, City were probably their only major client - the bigger companies usually have stock templates that are simply tweaked for each club they provide kit for, so there is probably less chance of something unique being manufactured.'"
Was this when we were at thorpe?
I think I remember that!
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| Bring back the Purple and Green
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| I would actually buy one of those shirts from the original post, I think they look brilliant!
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Was this when we were at thorpe?
I think I remember that!'"
Yep, just looked it up - the kit was used from 1991-93, the lad in my class was Andy but I can't remember his surname or the name of his brother (who designed the kit).
Sadly I thought it was great at the time!!
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| to be honest i'm more concerned what inside the shirt next season
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| The whole shirt conversation annoys me. It seems we release one every year, even the other year when they said it'd be every 2 years.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"The whole shirt conversation annoys me. It seems we release one every year, even the other year when they said it'd be every 2 years.'"
the away shirt has always been changed annually as its a key source of income for club. Plan was for home shirt to only be changed every two years iirc. 08/09 we had the same. 07 was centenary year so was an exception. Cant remember if we had same for 05/06 seasons. I'd suspect if we do bring out a new home one next year then its because this years effort has been pretty unpopular and we havent shifted anywhere like as many as usual ( seems backed up by fact shop are selling off remaining stocks).
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| Quote ="chpntpsr"They have got to be proposed kits, and we'll chose one of them as away, would have thought that the club would have a mainly white home shirt.
Why the club doesn't look on here, I've produced many kits on here that the fans like, and look a lot better than the gash kits kooga are producing.'"
Have you sent your designs to the club? Why not try contacting them and telling them they've received a lot of attention on here. A supporter designed kit might be worth a shot, it would need some selling to Kooga who would presumably see it as undermining their design role, but if it could be spun in some way - a £1 from every shirt to the Bulls community foundation for example, they might get on board as it could be good publicity for Kooga to support something along these lines. Or perhaps they'd make a limited run for the Magic weekend and the team could wear it as a one off with proceeds from shop sales (at a supplement say £50 each) going towards the community foundation. The NRL clubs do this sort of thing regularly and auction off the players shirts. Something along these lines would only need a few phone calls and a bit of nouse to set up - could get a lot of goodwill and publicity.
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| Do you know, it never ceases to amaze me, the fantastic ideas I read on here? The club should really try engaging with the fans more, they really don't know what they are missing out on.
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| Quote ="debaser"Do you know, it never ceases to amaze me, the fantastic ideas I read on here? The club should really try engaging with the fans more, they really don't know what they are missing out on.'"
Indeed.
Which is why we're going to try and improve this engagement through BullBuilder.
And to re-iterate - if you think you can offer something, then get involved, however small you think the contribution will be.
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| Quote ="Asim"Yep, just looked it up - the kit was used from 1991-93, the lad in my class was Andy but I can't remember his surname or the name of his brother (who designed the kit).
Sadly I thought it was great at the time!!'"
Stockdale......IIRC.
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