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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Aye, I forgot. He plays with us now so he must be suddenly good.'"
Not quite, don't think anyone is saying that, but maybe, whatever we all think we can support a player who pulls on our shirt and then judge him on the performances and effort he puts in or not whilst wearing our shirt?
As I've said, I'm underwhelmed to say the least. but I'm going to see how he goes in our squad wearing our shirt before I disregard him as a failure, I hope he proves a lot of people wrong.
Each to their own mind, and I suspect peoples views we're all entitled to express will stay where they are today until we see him and the new squad play......
...could be a long off season.
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| nice to see that you bulls have found a ready replacement for sam,and without having to use your huge windfall that hood said that you were gonna spend
hood is taking the mickey out of you lot imo,replacing a world class player in burgess with him?
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| Quote ="mystic messiah"So, some people rate him then? Good for them!
(although why you see fit to quote from a Giant who said he was a decent 5th/6th string prop at Huddersfield is a tad puzzling. '"
A bit of balance never does any harm, wouldn't you say? And indeed, that was why I included the post you referred to - in the interests of balance. I can understand you being puzzled though since the concept of balance is probably a bit new to you.
Quote ="mystic messiah"Showing desperation are we?)'"
Think you must be confusing me with someone else. I already made my initial thoughts on this signing quite clear.
Quote ="mystic eddie"People are entitled to there opinion (even me Adey!) and my opinion is that Danny Sculthorpe is a terrible signing who will do nothing to improve our side whatsoever. Maybe he will prove me wrong?'"
That is the posting you should have made in the first place, is it not?
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| Quote ="debaser"So he is an "ok" player? Good good. I feel so much better now.
So where has the £200K gone? Into the first team? It doesn't look like it.'"
Your second point - indeed. But my post was about fans' reactions to Danny Sculthorpe the player. Not about whether the club could or should have made a "better" signing.
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| It does seriously look like now that we are doing things on the cheap contrary to what we've been told. Do the club expect these signings to attract back the floating fans.
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| Quote ="redeverready"It does seriously look like now that we are doing things on the cheap contrary to what we've been told. Do the club expect these signings to attract back the floating fans.'"
I am pretty sure that lots who have not bought season tickets will be floating off before they do now...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Your second point - indeed. But my post was about fans' reactions to Danny Sculthorpe the player. Not about whether the club could or should have made a "better" signing.'"
Ok, so 5 or 6 fans rate him as ok. That's cheered us all up.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Aye, I forgot. He plays with us now so he must be suddenly good.'"
Yep that's exactly my point.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Yep that's exactly my point.
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I know the point you are making - you are saying we should get behind him. However, all the "getting behind him in the world" is not gonna suddenly stop him being e now is it?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I know the point you are making - you are saying we should get behind him. However, all the "getting behind him in the world" is not gonna suddenly stop him being e now is it?'"
I'm not saying it will. I think it is pretty clear what the overall feeling is regarding this signing though perhaps in varying degrees. I just hope that now though that we do not have a full off season of people bagging him before he's given a shot at the Bulls. At his stage of his career he isn't going to improve his skills but he may well 'fit' at the Bulls and do an decent job for the money we're paying him.
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| Quote ="redeverready"It does seriously look like now that we are doing things on the cheap contrary to what we've been told. Do the club expect these signings to attract back the floating fans.'"
I might have worded the first sentence very slightly differently, but I think you will find a general consensus with that post on this board.
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| Quote ="debaser"Ok, so 5 or 6 fans rate him as ok. That's cheered us all up.'"
Glad it has cheered you up, cos it hasn't cheered me up dramatically...
Except my point, since maybe you left that behind on that last bend, was about fans damning the guy before he pulls on a jersey, not about whether any of us should be ecstatic about the signing given what sort of signing we would all want to see if there were no limitations. Was it not?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Glad it has cheered you up, cos it hasn't cheered me up dramatically...
Except my point, since maybe you left that behind on that last bend, was about fans damning the guy before he pulls on a jersey, not about whether any of us should be ecstatic about the signing given what sort of signing we would all want to see if there were no limitations. Was it not?'"
I'm not damning him, but history seems to.
I'm more p155ed off that a "big" club like the Bulls can no longer attract any decent signings.
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| Quote ="debaser"I'm not damning him, but history seems to.
I'm more p155ed off that a "big" club like the Bulls can no longer attract any decent signings.'"
I guess that comes down to what people mean by "decent", given that the likes of e.g. Peacock (D), Withers, Hape, Henderson... well were they seen as "decent" signings at the time? And "any"? Not one of our signings last year or two has been "decent"?
But, to widen it out to being pîssed off about us not now seeming to be able to retain a squad relative to other clubs which looked a match for every one of theirs, then yes indeed. And get in the line...there are loads of us already in front of you!
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| Quote ="cieranblonde"I think Kearney will prove to be a much better player than Jeffries. If Sculthorpe puts any effort in he'll be just as good as Burgess was for the first half of the season. And if Hall plays every game he's beaten Glenn's record for the year. Reardon for Semi isn't a great swap but needs must. And i'd rather you get your boots on and play hooker than bother with Newton anymore Ewen'"
as a 30 year Wakefield fan and a two year sharks fan..
I can confirm Kearney is a better player the Ben Jeffries ... at full back
BJ is a far better half back/ stand off than Kearney
if you play Brett at half or 5/8 you will be devastatingly dissapionted...
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"the comparison here is easy to make. Both Huntley and Sculthorpe have had an unhappy time at Wakefield.'"
Well dug out.
As for the rest of this thread... well, some people need to get a bit of a grip on themselves.
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| Quote ="underground"as a 30 year Wakefield fan and a two year sharks fan..
I can confirm Kearney is a better player the Ben Jeffries ... at full back
BJ is a far better half back/ stand off than Kearney
if you play Brett at half or 5/8 you will be devastatingly dissapionted...'"
seeingas kearney has either been injured or played fullback all the last two years Im curious how you come to that conclusion
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| Fact the two Manly lads we have sighned are very good honest players.
Fact Kearney if we can keep him fit will promise to be one of the most exiting players we have sighned in a while.
Fact both reardon and sculthorpe both deserve a chance without been lambasted from the word go. If anything Sculthorpe can make the side more dynamic as his offload game is one of the best and his kicking game for a forward is very good.
Fact the retainment of James Donaldson is the best sighning so far. He will go on and become a very good player.
If we as supporters get behind the club rather than being negative Odsal will be better off for it.
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| Quote ="mat"seeingas kearney has either been injured or played fullback all the last two years Im curious how you come to that conclusion
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Indeed. I don't know how Kearney will get on at stand off but if someone had asked me this time last year what sort of 6 Sykes was it probably wouldn't have been a glowing recommendation! As it turned out, he had some of his best games in a Bulls shirt there.
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| I can honestly say that of the signings anounced so far, and I do hope for a couple more, Danny Sculthorpe is not a player who fills me full of expectation for next season. However as a rotational prop he might well do a decent job for us and untill we see how he fits in with the rest of the squad and the way we play next season as a unit I am willing to wait and see.
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| Fact...montoya6....for a first post..That was excellent my friend. totally agree with what you put..
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| Quote ="montoya6"Fact the two Manly lads we have sighned are very good honest players.
Fact Kearney if we can keep him fit will promise to be one of the most exiting players we have sighned in a while.
Fact both reardon and sculthorpe both deserve a chance without been lambasted from the word go. If anything Sculthorpe can make the side more dynamic as his offload game is one of the best and his kicking game for a forward is very good.
Fact the retainment of James Donaldson is the best sighning so far. He will go on and become a very good player.
If we as supporters get behind the club rather than being negative Odsal will be better off for it.'"
TOP banana ! !
I'll go along with all of that (except the "fact" bit as pointed out by DILLIGAF. Doh! )
We have what we have. We can't change that, whether we like it or not.
I'm a Bulls supporter and win or loose that's what I'll do (though I reserve the right to moan on occasion )
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| heard you guys are also in for Jordan James, the signings just get better and better at Odsal
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| Fact = Montoya6 doesn't know the definition of the word "fact" and seems to think it's the same as "opinion"
=whiteNote: not saying I disagree with the opinion
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| Quote ="Snapper D"I can honestly say that of the signings anounced so far, and I do hope for a couple more, Danny Sculthorpe is not a player who fills me full of expectation for next season. However as a rotational prop he might well do a decent job for us and untill we see how he fits in with the rest of the squad and the way we play next season as a unit I am willing to wait and see.'"
I think that sums it up very well.
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