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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Even if it WAS, which I very much doubt, I have raised NUMEROUS complaints about Adey's wee digs at my depression. You would think that, in light of this, he would be a bit more careful where he was calling someone else a "fruitcake", especially when said person was debateing with me wouldn't you say?'"
Yes but isnt that all part of the banter on the forum people debating and stating there own opinions,
He may of genuinely had some fruitcake to share, but do you know for a fact he did not, i can see where you are coming from with your depression with symtoms of paranoia but just because of this it does not mean everything IS aimed at you
Oh im sure he would tell you if it was as youknow he doesnt hold back much on what he says and his opinions.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Well, although the post follows yours, there's no actual quote in with the original one. Without your expanded comments about how you feel it's aimed at you, I'd have say pulsator2k7's assertion that it was aimed at him and his suggestion we could cope with just 4 props is the most likely and if that's the case then although it doesn't really add to the topic, I wouldn't call it abuse. I'd call it banter, not meant to be taken seriously.'"
So you trying to say im a fruitcake too cos our props are good enough
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Well, although the post follows yours, there's no actual quote in with the original one. Without your expanded comments about how you feel it's aimed at you, I'd have say pulsator2k7's assertion that it was aimed at him and his suggestion we could cope with just 4 props is the most likely and if that's the case then although it doesn't really add to the topic, I wouldn't call it abuse. I'd call it banter, not meant to be taken seriously.'"
Conveniently ignoring the fact that the term "fruitcake" is a wee favourite of Adey's, usually in threads I am involved in, and rarely when Pulsator has been involved. A wee search of the words Fruitcake and Adeybull do seem to back this up. Times used in reference to Pulsator? Zero.
Anyway, as I said, there are more factors that I have covered.
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"
Oh im sure he would tell you if it was as youknow he doesnt hold back much on what he says and his opinions.'"
Oh he does, especially when he has his online "nice guy" persona to keep up.
And, as I said, if it had been an isolated incident then I am sure he could be given the benefit of the doubt. But it isn't.
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| So any chance of getting back on topic now then ???
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"So any chance of getting back on topic now then ???'"
well if someone had not deliberately took it off topic with a dig that contributes nothing would we be here at all?
Still, lets hope the mods are as good as their word, then maybe he won't be around for a while. If they don't of course their threats seem somewhat hollow, or, even worse, blatant favouritism is shown.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"well if someone had not deliberately took it off topic with a dig that contributes nothing would we be here at all?
Still, lets hope the mods are as good as their word, then maybe he won't be around for a while. If they don't of course their threats seem somewhat hollow, or, even worse, blatant favouritism is shown.'"
So if this is the case please can you explain what exactly your rants are contributing ??
Oh yes that will be nothing - complain to them directly instead of taking up 3 pages of a thread with your problems with Adey
Pleaaasssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!
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| I have looked at other team’s message boards, and I’m pretty sure ours is the only one where we seem to spend more time bickering with other about opinions and the need to substantiate them, than our common interest---THE BRADFORD BULLS
If a post is wrong in my opinion then fair enough, that’s my opinion. If a post is factually wrong then I feel it’s correct to be told so.
If a poster gets on your wick by posting what you consider drivel, just ignore it, is it so hard?
I’m not taking sides here but, personal insults, I agree can be hurtful but that depends how they were said and how they were received. It’s sometimes difficult to covey the spirit a comment is posted on a message board.
I’ve noticed a lot of posters who used to be regulars on here no longer post. I’m sure they’re fed up of every thread being taken over by petty arguments. It’s getting to the point now where you can tell when a thread is going into meltdown
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"=#FF0000Anyway back on topic ??
Last edited by pulsator2k7 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:48 am, edited 1 time in total. '" =#FF0000 - BP
Ohhh I'd stop there mate, unless u know the truth and don't want to be sued for slander id refrain from publishing unfounded rumours! It's called libel in case u didn't know. Hope u have a good brief!!!
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"So any chance of getting back on topic now then ???'"
...before its locked you mean?
I'm more interested now in the replacements. We won't know the official reason for Raynors departutre, and I've heard rumour which I'm not putting here, but either way he's gone and doesn't seem to be making a fuss about it so I think its a fair cop and hes gone. Lynch wanted to go, the deal was good enough for all parties so he's gone.
I don't think there is anyone in the academy who can step up, so we're bringing people in. If there was a better or as good option for a prop Hull would have signed them, and others are looking for props too. I think we'll look to a squad prop player rather than a marque one as they're not available without a fee, which we won't pay. So I'd guess at an OOC NRL prop if we can get the quota spot or someone like rob parker to fill a shirt and maybe an up and coming player from the championship along with the best option from our academy if we can't, whilst hoping (and expecting TBF) the quartet we have left can step it up.
For winger the options of Pryce or Goulding don't seem too bad considering, but neither are as good as Raynor (like I doubt Lynch's replacement will be better) so I think we have to go for someone in both positions who could develop into more than they are right now, so Goulding over Pryce (although I might be tempted to get both if we can afford it) and a younger NRL/SL prop with potential.....I've no idea on NRL names as I don't get to see it very often.
Either way we need to be moving quick.
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"So if this is the case please can you explain what exactly your rants are contributing ??
Oh yes that will be nothing - complain to them directly instead of taking up 3 pages of a thread with your problems with Adey
Pleaaasssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!'"
I did. They did nothing. Hence................
(If only it had been dealt with in the correct manner by the mods eh? Especially as I know that at least one was on AFTER I had complained and, guess what??? They reprimanded someone veryeden01 on page 10 but strangely seemed to ignore my complaint.)
As I said, I did as I was asked. Makes you wonder what is the point, especially when the board is clearly modded more favouranbly towards some than others.
However, I have made my point, for all the good it will do.
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| Aaaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhh!!!........
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| Quote ="Steam Pig"I have looked at other team’s message boards, and I’m pretty sure ours is the only one where we seem to spend more time bickering with other about opinions and the need to substantiate them, than our common interest---THE BRADFORD BULLS'"
Once upon a time this board stood out for being the one place that didn't descend into bickering over everything. I hardly remember it.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Ohhh I'd stop there mate, unless u know the truth and don't want to be sued for slander id refrain from publishing unfounded rumours! It's called libel in case u didn't know. Hope u have a good brief!!!'"
he'd be ok if he was sued for slander
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| Quote ="pulsator2k7"So if this is the case please can you explain what exactly your rants are contributing ??
Oh yes that will be nothing - complain to them directly instead of taking up 3 pages of a thread with your problems with Adey
Pleaaasssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!'"
They're not rants. Eddie made a point and you've spent 3 turgid pages trying to tell him he's wrong when it was nothing to do with you to begin with.
If anyone's wrecked the thread it's you.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"They're not rants. Eddie made a point and you've spent 3 turgid pages trying to tell him he's wrong when it was nothing to do with you to begin with.
If anyone's wrecked the thread it's you.'"
You can not say it is not at me when you dont know who it was aimed at, i wasnt saying he was wrong just i believe it to be aimed at me, IF it was not aimed at me and however was aimed at Eddie then yes i hold my hands up and apologise "Im Sorry"
And he says he has spoken to the mods about this then fair enough but no need to post it all over the thread, if they know and havent dealt with Adey then thats a problem he needs to continuely take up with them surely.
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| Quote ="Duckman"...before its locked you mean?
I'm more interested now in the replacements. We won't know the official reason for Raynors departutre, and I've heard rumour which I'm not putting here, but either way he's gone and doesn't seem to be making a fuss about it so I think its a fair cop and hes gone. Lynch wanted to go, the deal was good enough for all parties so he's gone.
I don't think there is anyone in the academy who can step up, so we're bringing people in. If there was a better or as good option for a prop Hull would have signed them, and others are looking for props too. I think we'll look to a squad prop player rather than a marque one as they're not available without a fee, which we won't pay. So I'd guess at an OOC NRL prop if we can get the quota spot or someone like rob parker to fill a shirt and maybe an up and coming player from the championship along with the best option from our academy if we can't, whilst hoping (and expecting TBF) the quartet we have left can step it up.
For winger the options of Pryce or Goulding don't seem too bad considering, but neither are as good as Raynor (like I doubt Lynch's replacement will be better) so I think we have to go for someone in both positions who could develop into more than they are right now, so Goulding over Pryce (although I might be tempted to get both if we can afford it) and a younger NRL/SL prop with potential.....I've no idea on NRL names as I don't get to see it very often.
Either way we need to be moving quick.'"
Anyway...........................
I reckon goulding would be a good catch, cos he is fairly young and like Ainscough seems to be getting pushed out at wigan and only used for back up, but pryce would have to be last option for me,
agree with the prop situation though
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| Goulding got a 3 year contract end of last season IIRC. I'm sure that means he will come at a cost.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Goulding got a 3 year contract end of last season IIRC. I'm sure that means he will come at a cost.'"
Could always use the money from Lynch, but doubt that will happen
Like someone suggested in an earlier post though about Lee Smith, He may not be a bad option TBF
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| Just read all the strange tirades above. And for Heaven's sake!
Guys, after some deliberation, and in view of the pretty serious allegation made against me, I'm posting this - the [uonly[/u response I shall trouble you with, after which PLEASE can the thread continue on topic?
I use the term "fruitcake" (amongst other, less complimentary, terms) to refer to - and give my succinct opinion on - people who say (or do) things that seem to me to be quite absurd or ridiculous and at variance with what I would expect a sensible person to say. I read quite a number of comments before my post - including, but not confined to, some IMO quite absurd statements from the individual who has made the allegation - which caused me in exasperation to express a succinct opinion on what I had read. I avoided saying what I really thought about some of the statements, since (on past experience) that would have been quite counter-productive - and the fallout of no interest to most sensible readers of the thread.
For the avoidance of doubt, if someone should choose to call me a "fruitcake", I would regard it as their opinion of me and on what I said. I get called similar things and plenty worse quite regularly (see Gurus Beard for a reasonably definitive list... )
I make no apology for implying -or indeed directly stating - that somebody has posted statements which strike me as absurd or stupid. Indeed, you will see me doing precisely that on a regular basis with the more absurd trolls who visit this forum (and for which, see my avatar). And, for sure, I find many of this particular poster's contributions to be absurd or stupid or not at all sensible, in some combination; but that is just my opinion. He clearly feels the same about mine, given how he regularly attacks me or what I have to say directly, without provocation or invitation, often by leaping in to support posts by others that are critical of something I said and otherwise nothing to do with him. For my own part, I have not engaged with that individual directly on these forums for many months, nor do I intend wasting mine, the mods' or everyone else's time ever doing so.
But if that individual has contrived to convince himself that I was making any adverse reference whatsoever to his depression, or indeed have ever done so, then he is both completely mistaken and, I suggest, exhibiting worrying symptoms of obsession and paranoia?
That is and will be my only comment on the subject. Thank you for your patience, and back to the sensible discussion PLEASE on what is a pretty important subject.
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| ...and, on topic, I very much tend to agree with those who have repeatedly argued we need a pack front row "enforcer" as the priority. Added to what we have now lost with Lynch, and the strengthening we have done in the three-quarters and halves (loss of Raynor notwithstanding) surely this must be the priority now?
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| i think karl pryce would be scrapping the barrel tbh , no doubt he has the ability to play in the halves as his handling skills and kicking game you will struggle to find better when he is on his game , the fact that a player with all this ability has been playing on the wing says alot i think..... he has the heart of a doormouse and is possibly the softest bloke iv ever watched play the game professionally!!! such a shame as a 6ft7 , 18 stone half back with some grunt, aggression and kicking game would be brilliant for us , unfortunately from what i can gather he just cant be bothered .. which is a crying shame because from what iv seen of him when he is on his game he is an unreal talent , goulding would be a better option in my opinion a bit more urgent and industrious , the gap to be filled in the props however ... i have no idea at all , i think tom b is going to have to step right up and be counted next year , which i personally dont have any worries about i think he will develop into a very good prop
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| Dont think anyone would seriously suggest signing karl pryce to play in halves. just because he played odd game for us in an injury crisis is pretty irrelevent. he's been a wing/ ever since he came back from union.
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| What about trying to sign Sam Burgess ive heard he has a bit of quality
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| Been awayfor a couple of days and not been able to read this so sorry if its been said already but does anyone know what Raynor has suppose t have done???
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