If you reread my post you will see I used the word ' rely ' , in that yes attractive and successful results can and often do result in increased inome, but you cannot RELY on that as a business plan, once as a board of directors you have allocated your coach his playing budget , it is then you start to do the real work you are involved at the club for

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What it says is that he is 'still at the helm'. It catergorically does not say he is going nowhere. Watch this space.

I'd imagine RHP's services don't come cheap, he left a good job at the giants to take up his current position. As chief executive did he have no vision of the budgets and the holes that were yet to appear?

If savings need to be made. What's to say a new director/chairman appointed may not decide to let RHP go?

Right at this moment the publicly stated strategy for the Bulls is to cut costs to the point that costs = income, not hoped for income. Rarebreeds comment has to be seen in the light of that. Yes it was short and brief, but I will fill in the gaps: [iIf, despite the cuts, the squad stays together, it looks stronger than last years. So it is likely that there will be a few more wins, and that should attract a few more fans. These will be on the gate, so true incremental income at a time when it is most needed.[/i So I have to say to you, as I have to say to so many offcumdens, PLEASE KEEP UP!!! for example, the low priced season tickets was an issue of three boards and one liquidation ago. nor is Caisley is our chairman. If you stick around you might learn something of the complexities of the situation, again as an example Wooden Top who started making comments almost as naive as yours a few weeks ago is starting to show signs of awareness.

Looking at it from where we are now (and with help from Adeys observations about the OK RW relationship), the club needs the realism of the outgoing board to continue, so OKs appointees must have that, with RL/professional sports club experience useful.

Not if their experience is the usual one of assuming that a supposed better squad than previous years will result in better performance/results and therefore increased income

RL and Pro sport is awash with administrators that have failed , so experience isnt neccessarily the answer, what will be needed is some realism from you the fans , because quite often it is the expectations of them that drive administrations to overspend

As regards ' Nievity ' ,I was one of quite a few who when OK was beeing mooted on here as a ' Successful Businessman ' and will therefore know what to do to, suggested that there is no ' normal business experience ' that can prepare anybody to run a Pro Sports club, and that it would be a couple of years at least before he would realise the difficulty involved, similarily the offer to forgo 50% of the SKY money if he didnt have the cash to replace it was stupid in the extreme, and doomed to fail

Unfortunatley for you the removing of licencing could see you potentially lose your SL status

Well burger me.

Things areTHAT bad that we are relying on info from Gledhill?

It is worse than I thought.

Anyone know what Gary Tasker is upto?

I suggest, as you are so keen to advise others, that you re-read my post. In this pathetic answer you confuse Rarebreeds "wish" and the intentions of the incoming board. My post clearly differentiated between the two, and what my hopes are.
Us fans do not run the club. If we did, I would have put the club into liquidation and started again with no obligations to anybody, and before the fans and others had put £500k into the black hole. Yes there are those that expect signings as if it were 2003 not 2013, but there is a massive dose of realism in the rest. BUT it is the administrators that run the club, and to repeat what I said, I hope that the incoming lot are as realistic as the outgoing lot.

Would you?

Even if it had been clear that the RFL penalty for going bust was relegation to the bottom division? (Like N Wales Crusaders)?

What happened to the "I've remortgaged my property portfolio, which means the Bulls future is SAFE for he next two years".........another lie from "The Saviour" ??

No confusion at all, the fact that the spend to gain plan has a long history of failure, it is still the one most often tried again,as you say whoever comes in hopefully has a better plan

As wooden spoon has aluded to, you would have taken relegation to Championship 1 ? , hindsight perhaps is a wonderful thing

As it seems you dont appreciate any non Bradford participation in this thread I'll leave it there

Unfortunately this is oft the case on here. Anyone who says anything bad about the club is dismissed as a "troll" and anyone who supports a different side generally has "an agenda".

The problem is that so many of our fans have believed the lies for years now that finally getting the truth really DOES hurt.

The thing is, most non Bradford participation is usually along the lines of "You should have been thrown out of the sport all together" or other helpful and insightful comments.

Please describe failing altogether. The game will continue to be played with or without a pro team as it has for over a hundred years.

Whilst it may not be a rugby city I would say that we do have a significant amateur scene with a bit more than a few clubs that will continue with or without a pro club.

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I think that's a pretty accurate summation of affairs. If Omar doesn't bring in some directors [and it's [i:2ea3fw6yhis[/i.

Looking in at this mess my problem is that OK clearly wanted out big style only a few months ago and that his main objective now appears to be to try to claw back the funds he put in.

The last set of directors were trying to get the operation to break even which in itself was a hugh task how on earth do you think you can not only breakeven but also generate a cash surplus to repay nearly £1m? Anyone who thinks you can put money into a SL club and get it back has lost touch with reality.

"I wouldn't wish this situation on anyone. We don't know what's happening and it's the uncertainty that makes it worse.
A direct quote from FC taken from Sky Sports website today.
So it's clear that nobody is providing that openness/transparency that all parties have at one time or another promised. It's frustrating being a supporter but how much more so if you're a player/ coaching staff/ admin staff member?
I'm not holding my breath that the local media will press the owner and the former directors for clarity. No doubt we will be treated to another tale of how well pre season training is going

Mr Khan has every right to make attempts to recover his investment but business and investments are risk. Risk is what you chance your arm at to accumulate.

"Sometimes you win sometimes you lose"

I am sure that the RFL tried to offer alternatives, negotiate possibilities and explore avenues from all parties (Socratic dialogue)) I would be seriously disappointed if that was not the case.

Perhaps the current owner is paying for loans plus any interest on them and may need the money. I think it is fairly clear now he wants out. I would like to believe that that the RFL still have interested parties, but as the shares are tied up with Mr Khan there is not much to be done.

I think the board before the last one under Mr Khan were not realistic in their expectations and as the skilled and informed people on this forum have suggested he has gone in without the skills or the mindset required.

This is a really serious issue and I think should be treated as such with some urgency. There has already staff being deprived of their jobs and potentially further job losses. Confidence is at an all time low although I stand to be corrected on that one.

FC saying on another sports website is saying he has no idea what's happening.

Is it that Mr Khan should see some sense?

The problems faced by the situation, which seems to be the chaos theory unfolding in the public domain, is that not even those at the sharp end will understand everything that is actually happening. So for us mortal fans to understand everything is doubly impossible. We ask for the "Truth" and "Transparency" and accuse people of lying.
As a question! What is the truth that we seek, because everybody has differing perceptions of what they expect the truth to be. Lies have the same rules
So it is with transparency, your expected transparency will be different to mine and so on.

You are I suspect right on the button when you say those at the actual sharp end in the club, are frustrated with the whole situation, absolutely peed off is probably a better way to put it.
All we can hope for is that someone in the position of making things happen, chooses the right path, and the chaos begins to dissipate. We cannot say who was/is the Mr or Mrs right at this moment?

A crystal ball is required urgently????

The bloke deserves a medal in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong everyone has a right to decide how they spend they're money but all these people saying they're going to ask for their season ticket money back or aren't going to games because of what's going on in my opinion miss the point.

I'm not going to Odsal to support the board of directors.

Rarebreed -- sorry if my posting was unclear . I don't intend to join a philosophical debate about the meaning and perception of truth as I accept your analysis. I was merely expressing my frustration that so many of the parties have professed a belief in openess yet are so quiet. Simply stated I would expect that :
1. The resigning directors would have spoken to the players and staff rather than just issuing a statement on Christmas Eve
2. The owner would have done the same once those resignations had occurred
Macbull- totally agree regarding FC and your strictures to those who intend to boycott matches-- if the Bulls do take to the field in February I'll be there regardless of ownership or directors.o

One final point--
When the date for any Bullbuilder / Supporters meeting is confirmed please publicise on this forum

Will we see the start of the season?

If we don’t make the start it will cost the other clubs money. I read a debate somewhere about:
 Would the RFL simply use it as a way or reducing the league by one?
 Would each team continue to get the £60k of ours if we are not there? If they don’t, they may have budgeted for it.
 Teams would miss out on a decent away following at their lost home games with us – on top of no away support from London and Catalan.
 It was stated that Leeds would lose about £100k by not playing us at Headingly and a championship team came in – they wouldn’t get 18,000 gate with a championship team? Add the £60k and Leeds lose about £160k if we don’t start – the wages of two of their players?
 If a new team came in would they also get the £60k or would it be stopped for all?
 If we didn’t start and weren’t replaced would supporters want a refund on their season tickets at other clubs as there is one less home game? If Leeds dropped out would I want a refund for that missing home game – I am sure some would!
When you look at these types of questions it is clear that the RFL are in a potential mess if we drop out before the start as a replacement would not be ready to take our spot.