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| Quote ="Johnbulls"Keinhorst in talks with Warrington apparently.'"
Which is odd considering they already have Gelling, King, Brand and Burrell as Centre options, along with likes of Jack Hughes who are fairly comfortable there. Unless they're planning on playing him elsewhere, I can't see Keinhorst getting much game time at Wire.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Which is odd considering they already have Gelling, King, Brand and Burrell as Centre options, along with likes of Jack Hughes who are fairly comfortable there. Unless they're planning on playing him elsewhere, I can't see Keinhorst getting much game time at Wire.'"
Sorry.I ve just re read the piece I was reading and I've misunderstood. Just to be clear Keinhorst is not in talks with Wire and furthermore he would be a great signing for us.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"KR made it very clear recently that they wanted Oakes, Keinhorst & Elliot Wallis to go out on season long loans. Wallis has gone to York, so that only leaves Keinhorst as openly available. I suspect the main reason they want him to go though is that he's likely on better money than he's worth (to tempt him in the first place) and they'd like some of those wages off their salary cap. Which I would think would largely rule out the Bulls.
I would expect the other KR player that's coming on loan to be a different fringe player. Maybe someone like Harry Bardle, Adam Rooks or a longer shot of Owen Harrison.'"
With Keinhorst it could be that KR are willing to cover some of his wages to get him out of the club.
Don't know much on the other players what positions do they play?
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| Quote ="bulls2487"With Keinhorst it could be that KR are willing to cover some of his wages to get him out of the club.
Don't know much on the other players what positions do they play?'"
Bardle & Harrison are props, Rooks a back row.
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| Quote ="Johnbulls"Sorry.I ve just re read the piece I was reading and I've misunderstood. Just to be clear Keinhorst is not in talks with Wire and furthermore he would be a great signing for us.'"
I'd love Keinhorst at the Bulls, but only as a 'willing participant'.
Over the years we've had a few who made it abundantly clear they couldn't care less ( the latest being Krasniqi last season) so if he's determined to prove a point, like Jordan Lilley, then he'll be more than welcome, but if he's sulking about it then no.
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| agreed Bc, we don't want to be swapping a bunch of players that wanted to play for us and showed it on the field for a bunch of don't give a t@ssers. I still believe that we need a good solid core of our lads in the team, and so the commitment to the academy and reserves despite the cost should eventually pay off down the line. and that's where the money should go rather than the black hole. We are still going to need to sell players (the new term is asset stripping for you budding business typhoons out there), but that's no problem longer term if they keep coming through.
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| I have just drafted this team list up as currently stands. Correct me if i'm wrong with anyone or have missed anyone out.
1. Pickersgill
2. Foggin-Johnson
3. Evans
4. Oakes
5. Johnson
6. Milnes
7. Lilley
8. Kirk
9. Hallas
10. Crossley
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21. Stephenson
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24. Foster
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26. Scurr
27. Berry
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£/$ I'd imagine. I thought Fev looked a far more dangerous team last season with Connor Jones at 9 so wasn't that surprised when someone came calling for him and not King.
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£/$ I'd imagine. I thought Fev looked a far more dangerous team last season with Connor Jones at 9 so wasn't that surprised when someone came calling for him and not King.
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| Quote ="Jimmy 4 Bradford"I have just drafted this team list up as currently stands. Correct me if i'm wrong with anyone or have missed anyone out.
1. Pickersgill
2. Foggin-Johnson
3. Evans
=#0000004. Brown< - > Oakes
5. Johnson
6. Milnes
7. Lilley
8. Kirk
=#0000009. Flanagan < - >Hallas
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12. Farrell
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21. Stephenson
22. Doyle
23. Culling
24. Foster
25. Vaznys
26. Scurr
27. Berry
28. Gallagher
29. Green
30. Shackleton'"
Quite worrying really. I know folk will say there's months till the start of the season, but unless we are going to announce 10 signings tomorrow then my guess is that the rest of the squad will be straggled up to the first week of the season, meaning 50% of any future signings might not have had a pre season and come in unfit or undercooked.
First 17 clearly needs strength adding to it. And we could do with 6 or so players with 75+ first team games in reserve. There's barely 30 games between numbers 20-30. It's great to see they're coming through but now isn't the time to be relying on them. As we saw a few seasons back, in the championship they'll end up getting banged for the whole season. It doesn't do them any good in the long run.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Quite worrying really. I know folk will say there's months till the start of the season, but unless we are going to announce 10 signings tomorrow then my guess is that the rest of the squad will be straggled up to the first week of the season, meaning 50% of any future signings might not have had a pre season and come in unfit or undercooked.
First 17 clearly needs strength adding to it. And we could do with 6 or so players with 75+ first team games in reserve. There's barely 30 games between numbers 20-30. It's great to see they're coming through but now isn't the time to be relying on them. As we saw a few seasons back, in the championship they'll end up getting banged for the whole season. It doesn't do them any good in the long run.'"
I expect we will be relying on dual reg for the experience in 2020, if we link up with Toronto they will have plenty of players on sidelines when finished building squad for SL.
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| The thing that people barely ever seem to factor in with these 'Choose for starting 17' threads are the inevitable injuries that happen. Then you get people over on Bulls Banter saying daft things 'Oh we don't need any more half backs, we've got Lilley and Milnes....' not considering that one or both will get injured at some point.
We definitely need around 6-8 seasoned, experienced players. Because whilst we actually can put a decent 17 out right now, we WILL get injuries - possibly before the season even get started - and then you're deep into kids that have zero experience.
And by 'seasoned experience' I don't mean SL fringe players on DR who are no more experienced and seasoned that our own kids, like some of the Hull KR academy players that have been mentioned. They'll just end up getting bullied around by the tough guys at Batley, Swinton etc.
I'm sure John Kear (unlike Geoff Toovey) is wise enough to know this and do something about it!
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| Quote ="Jimmy 4 Bradford"I have just drafted this team list up as currently stands. Correct me if i'm wrong with anyone or have missed anyone out.
1. Pickersgill
2. Foggin-Johnson
3. Evans
4. Oakes
5. Johnson
6. Milnes
7. Lilley
8. Kirk
9. Hallas
10. Crossley
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21. Stephenson
22. Doyle
23. Culling
24. Foster
25. Vaznys
26. Scurr
27. Berry
28. Gallagher
29. Green
30. Shackleton'"
thanks J4B, can I ask you a big favour? edit it adding the positions for nos 20-30, just FR BR HB and B would do unless you want to be more exact. then people can get an idea of where our strengths lie (being positive, like our vice captain Hallas).
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| This thread is basically the same as Leigh & Fev’s threads from a year ago
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| Cant we get a couple of Fijians or Papuan's over now they'll have qualified for a work permit?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Cant we get a couple of Fijians or Papuan's over now they'll have qualified for a work permit?'"
Cue the "Ageless" Stanley Gene returning for another spell!
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| Quote ="Blotto"Cue the "Ageless" Stanley Gene returning for another spell!
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If he can still catch a ball I’m all for it. What a player he was
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| Must be some more signings imminent
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Must be some more signings imminent'"
Anthony England on 1yr deal... another pretty solid signing after Greg Johnson.
Two from two so far i'd say Mr Kear!!!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Anthony England on 1yr deal... another pretty solid signing!'"
Excellent signing
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| Absolutely, brilliant news.
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| Indeed great signing. Experienced, played at this level before and adds some size. Don't think anyone can be unhappy with this.
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| How strange,,, I ask about a signing and we get one,,, but what makes this more special is I mentioned about this guy been available and said it would be a statement of intent, well thankyou everyone involved with getting this guy signed up, I believe this is the best signing in the whole of the championship so far, absolutely chuffed to bits
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| Quote ="Molsk111"How strange,,, I ask about a signing and we get one,,, but what makes this more special is I mentioned about this guy been available and said it would be a statement of intent, well thankyou everyone involved with getting this guy signed up, I believe this is the best signing in the whole of the championship so far, absolutely chuffed to bits'"
Best signing in the whole of the championship Grow up.
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| Tell me one better
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