Well you know what they say FA, you've got to be in it to win it


Just think IF Addy had kicked those two goals and Blythe had been awarded that try and IF so on and so on had happened and Lowes had done this that and tuther you might have been in the top flight yourselves next season instead of fighting for the scraps what Fax and Leigh leave you, perhaps you might have taken over our title of the worst team to disgrace SL.

Are you a professional bellend or are you just a very good actor?

Mystic old bean, you appear to have put the destination 'disaster' in your sat nav, but I think you may fancy a different route.

Feel free to stick your nose in ed it's always good to get your imput

I think it's the charming way you come across with your views what makes it a pleasure to deal with you

The last time I put that in my Sat Nav I ended up in Wakefield. It is a mistake that I have no wish to repeat.

We won't have the opportunity, but at least I'm glad you agree on your title.

Halifax in 2003 were the worst team in SL with one solitary win in their opening game. London got one win in 2014 - they edge out Fax on the strength of their win being away to Leeds. Huddersfield got two in 1998. Leigh got two and one draw in 2005, curiously all with Ganson as the referee.

There have been several worse than 2015 Wakefield. Amazing, really.

Feel free to misquote my meanings if it suits your argument, it would be futile to argue against statistics when they clearly show we were the worst side in SL last season, however you pointed out quite wrongly that we were the worst team ever in SL, those statistics which you readily use to support your arguments' will prove you wrong as both Leigh and Halifax as your mod' Bulliac pointed out were worse than us, can I take it from your lack of response that you agree with the rest of my comments, just a thought really but why don't you, like most of your fans have, simply accept that you weren't good enough throughout the competition as a whole to succeed.

With the exception of Harold Shipman, does anyone in Wakefield know what a sentence is?

You should do stand up ed, I'm sure it's far easier than chopping up copper cables.

Eddie if you are a Mystic you would already know the answer to this,in your face .

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Ganson was indeed the referee for Leigh's 24-22 victory over London Broncos and for the 22-22 draw with Hull FC - although there are Leigh fans who still haven't forgiven him for ending the game as the final hooter sounded, just as Leigh dropped a goal!! However, the official in charge of our biggest SL victory, over Wakefield (fancy that then!

) was Ashley Klein. [Source

Huh, so he was. And so he is in my records too. Don't know where I got that from.

Our successes that season were few and far between - so I tend to remember details of them vividly.

That's probably why my memories of the 2015 Qualifiers seem to have vanished!!

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ___Ferres/ Nothing more to say really.

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... ___Ferres/ Nothing more to say really.

Pretty deflating article. I get where Ferres is coming from that we just need to add 1 or 2 players, however a prop from the worst team in the division and a guy who's recovering from a serious leg break aren't going to improve us. Even if Campbell was full fit, just don't understand that signing when we have Clare, Caro, Mendieka, Williams. Mullaney, Blythe etc.

Agreed but sadly it's what I expected after we failed to go up.

I suspect the rumours of Lee Smith, Kyle Wood, Martin Ridyard etc are likely to stay just that now.

I think their hands are tied by all of these two year deals they handed out. We can't afford to pay them off and there are realistically only three other clubs in our division that could possibly take them off our hands as the part time clubs won't be able to afford the wages.

I had thought we might have had some joy in offloading some to Sheffield after they went full time and saw a bunch of players leave, or maybe even Featherstone with the huge exodus of players they have had this off-season, but so far nothing seems to have materialised.

Ignoring my views as to the actual possibility of anyone being promoted, I would say that keeping essentially the same squad is a positive thing. Those that are the mainstay of the side have had a season playing together and if they are actually any good, will be significantly better for it. I have often said that building a good team takes several seasons, and it does, even if we don't have the luxury of several seasons.

I frankly don't know how we will go if we manage to keep Gaskell and Siejka fit for the majority of the season. Clearly we are stuck with Siejka, even though nobody but Jimmy rates him, and even if he doesn't improve, if you have settled halfbacks, which everyone else knows what they will (or won't!) do, that would surely be a plus.

Without a doubt we need two elite massive props but so does every other team in the world and the questions are who is available, can we possibly afford them and last but not least, would they come.

We don't really know who is ultimately responsible for our hiring and firing but it's not gone that well in parts. Some of t is puzzling, to say the least, and so far it looks like, again, even if you are in the camp that we now have two fit halves, we have no genuine cover, our fallbacks being Addy, Purtell, Mullaney and maybe Mendeika, in that order. Which worries me.

We've signed Oscar Thomas don't forget FA. Cover for if (when) Gaskell gets injured.

They're really selling the 2016 season to me at the moment! Sounds as though we're hoping to pick players up as the season progresses and hopefully shed some of the fringe players to accomodate those signings. Gamble being whether the right players in the right positions become available at the right time. Perhaps leaving a little bit of room for manoeuvre if a new coach wants to make changes mid season perhaps?

So, we're pretty much stuck with what we've got then?

Shame, but not the end of the world. We've held on to our best players who've all had a season to grow and learn together. We still have room should we need it and should the right player come along.

The trouble is, I kind of get the impression that the club were confident of gaining promotion this year and they're a bit out of sorts because that did not come to pass.

I think they needed to make a bigger noise over players like O'Brien and Gaskell announcing they're staying if there wasn't any big name signing coming in

To be honest, I don't believe 'the club' were ever truly, "confident", of going up. Naturally, when selling season tickets it was [and still is the obvious thing to be spouting and equally obviously, you'd hope the players would always hang onto the belief that it was possible, but for senior management to be "confident" would show a remarkable naivety, imo, and I'd be disappointed if they really did. Not that we'll ever find out what they [ireally[/i believed.

They may well have come to the view that last year was our best shot - and they may well be right but, as mentioned up the thread, we've been boxed in by some poor recruitment decisions and lengths of contracts last year, which seem to be making any incomings a wee bit difficult. Again, as mentioned above, it won't be easy to 'lose' any of those players, so we are down to hoping they really have improved or that we can get some of them loaned out again. That would, at least, free up some cash and cap space.

It's incredibly difficult to read that piece and not ask what was the thinking/discussion behind the signings throughout last season.

I'm not knocking the individual players here but for example Ferres has signed Uisele, Ulugia, Caro and Clare as wingers. Yet our coach picks Blythe on the wing in the MPG.

A Fev lad I bump into through work tells me Mendieka is a line breaking, try scoring centre. I replied, oh, we've never seen him play there. Having signed Halafifi and at the lasy second decided we might need a second hooker, he played him against Halifax and guess what? He wasn't anywhere close to match fit or up to the speed and physicality of the game and we played a centre at hooker (who was awful).

I like Campbell and I'm happy to see Clarke given a chance as I would've been happy to see Tahrouie/Fleming get more time but can anyone see the overall plan here?

Because I really can't.

As Ferres said 'that’s how the process evolves...'

I agree with you, Maisiebugs, I don't see a proper strategy here. Far too many players given 2 year contracts is the root of the problem, meaning that we've got a load of deadwood hanging around that we still have to pay, but its obvious aren't rated by Lowes who - at the end of the day - picks (or rather doesn't pick) them.

I don't know anything about Clark, so I'll reserve judgement. But is he going to force himself into a bench spot ahead of Lauaki or Crossley who seem to be shoe-ins regardless of performance? And where does that leave Fleming and Taharoui in the pecking order. It looks, on the surface, as if Clark is simply replacing the invisible Karl Davies in the squad. Let's hope he knows the way to Oxford

As for Campbell, he probably won't be fit for the start of the season anyway, but I don't see where he fits into the team? He isn't going to shift Mullaney from Full Back, unless we're planning on playing Mullaney at half back or assuming he'll be injured again. In any case, we already have Oscar Thomas as Full Back cover, not to mention Mendeika or Clare.

Either way, this constant downbeat press briefing from Ferres is doing absolutely nothing to make me feel like I want to be stumping up for a season ticket...