Why wouldn't you play your absolute best 17 today, that should not include Seijka we can all see that? This was THE game to win in the qualifiers and its a perfect example of why Lowes will never be a top coach - his stubborn streak that served him so well as a player has cost us this game, but he has to try and prove that he's seen something in a useless scrum half we've all missed.

Jokes on us clearly....

Awful day at the office!!

Don't worry, he'll sign another winger.

A good many of us saw this coming from the season and how its been approached. I am pleased in a way that this has happened because we can go back and realise that we simply are not super league quality. Super League is faster and have delivered.

What a load of rubbish. Really looking forward to today's game and it was over before it got going. Not going up and not good enough to even threaten to go up

And I put a fiver on us at 2-1

Embarrassment from 1 to 17.

Anyone know why Nielson didn't play

Embarrassing. Brian Smith completely outcoached Lowes. Tim Smith didn't get tackled once! No pressure at all. Defence was pathetic and Jimmys stubbornness of picking favourites every week has embarrased and humiliated the fans who were the only positive today. Adam O'Brien is crocked and is offering very little threat. But let's keep hammering the poor kid or 80 minutes!

So so angry after today!

Hopefully the deluded "in Lowes we trust" brigade will finally realise what the less blinkered among us saw right from the word go, he's just not up to the job.

My heart sank when he was announced as head coach because his track record is crap. As a player, wonderful. As a coach, woeful.

He is Mr Green's biggest mistake; let's hope he remedies it.

As an Halifax fan, a very similar end of season scenario developed with Karl Harrison in charge.

If Gaskell is done then we haven't got a cat in hells chance.

Embarrassing watching that game. Looked like an amateur team at times.

Today started badly when I went to the bulls ticket office from Manchester at about 1.15-1.30 to pick up my tickets to be told they've aleready gone to wakey no problem my fault for not coming early. Went to wakey to pick them up only to be told they've not arrived check back about 2.30-2.45 ok fine ight have beaten the coach , 5mins to kcikoff I checked again still none so had to ring the bulls to see where they where (I will ring my surperviserwho took them and ring you back) 2 to kick off I get a call to say she isnt answering and I will just have to pay again and try and claim it back FFS I'm now out £66 plus £60 for tickets I've not got.

Then to get in and watch that total shower get turned over, the first half was diabolical waket whereby brilliant but we where woeful no defensive structure no spread from their ptbs and we had just kicked off, they looked knackered by half time it was to late,needs a drastic change otherwise we will see the se agaiant Salford, if gaskell is out we are done for,and why include seijka he hasn't played for ages and addy looks settled with gaskell, blythe recently is no use nor ornament, crossley seems no better than samir who has been left in the cold, we have a huge squad which we don't use we could have saved the wage for something else but no, if we don't go up and fail with a whimper Jimmy needs to go, all the big games we have had the bottle hasn't been there,alright saying we have a squad full of sl players but they aren't playing like sl players lauaki was our main go forward , our wingers didn't getbroight into the game not sure if caro actually touched the ball.

The worst team in sl turned us over very easily and that has me worried very worried we now need to beat another sl team plus Leigh and Halifax and on that performance I dontthink that's feasible

Gaskell let you down today. I hope he is OK as he is fantastic in attack but he was massively at fault for the 1st two tries before going off injured. Really set the tone at the start of the match and got Wakefield on a roll that didn't end until the match was effectively over. Although Siejka was no better when he came on. Gaps between Gaskell/Siejka and Purtell were exploited all game. I hope Rowley was taking notes!

I said way before these 8s started that nobody would switch places and I still believe that. The pace of the championship is too slow, you can't just flick a switch and immediately start playing at SL pace.

Having said that, I think Lee Gaskell must have broken several mirrors in Wakefield at some point, because the last two times he's played there he's only lasted a few minutes before picking up serious injuries.
What is even more disappointing than today's result is the fact that Lee will most likely miss the rest of the 8s, which means our season will probably fade out with a whimper.

Its not just the pace. We're not used to playing against a half decent half back.

The 1st half tactics were a shambles. Lost count of how many times we kicked on the 4th and every time it was right down the full backs throat. We were down by 3 or 4 scores and we were still doing the same thing. Clueless tactics from Lowes.

As I feared rather than as I hoped. The bottom line is that instead of coming out like kings of the world and imposing ourselves on the opposition, we looked frightened to death. Whether it is Lowes' fault, or the players just had a huge inferiority complex, or a mix of both, i don't know, but in that first quarter we were literally shoiting our pants, headless chickens, bad choices, poor positioning, basically not doing any of the things we have been good at.

We didn't believe we were as good as them and it showed. Nobody was on the field to shake them up and lead from the front. Anything that happened after that first 15 minutes was to me irrelevant, as we had lost the game. You can't tell anything from the last three quarters of the debacle.

Wakey in contrast did look as if they had an arrogance about them, and came out with confidence. Maybe this could have been dented but instead we just encouraged it and the net result was the disaster we saw.

Gaskell goig off was not a factor as a comeback was already highly improbable, but he was not to blame for any of the tries, and indeed got crocked being the only man attempting to prevent a score, on our line. The pack was largely to blame, as they got monstered in that opening, and we literally never saw the ball, and never stopped anything Wakey did.

I reckon that is our playoffs finished, If we had ambitions to go up then we had to beat some SL teams and Wakey were the obvious scalp to target. Instead we shipped another half century. And no doubt lost Gaskell for the remainder too, if initial reports of coughing up blood and being rushed to hospital are accurate.

Shame really, because we did not see the real bulls today, and we are pretty unrecognizeable from the shower that trotted out today when we play with belief and confidence. The key is belief and confidence. How you instil it, I wouldn't know, it is part of the coach's job, but if in their heads the players are convinced the opposition is much better than them, then you are gonna lose.

It wasn't so much that we got beaten by a SL team - Wakey were correctly favourites, and have the financial advantage etc yadda yadda. It was how far away from being at the standard Wakey are we made ourselves look. We looked literally nowhere near, and so let ourselves down very badly.

As the saying in Scotland goes, that was Pure Pish

Perhaps our only hope is to finish above the other champ clubs and go into the final game against the team in 4th. Let's see how Leigh get on tomorrow.

When Lee Smith went through for that killer try it looked like he walked past 2 dustbins. That was really poor.

Purtell has defended that poorly all season. Some on here still rate him though for some reason.

I think that was a useful exercise as it demonstrated how poor we are compared to the worst of the SL teams. I didn't expect any Championship team to have an easy ride but that was shockingly bad and I'm not easily shocked. Wakey looked to be on fire in the first half and seemed to be almost faultless. With a bit more care the margin would have been wider.

Just got back. That first ten, fifteen minutes or so was hard to watch. We were out enthused by Wakefield's pack, and after Gaskell went off we just fell to bits. We began defending like turnstiles, leaving gaps everywhere and falling off tackles. Going forward, we lacked game management, and our kicking game was terrible. Who was it that didn't find touch on the penalty? Unforgiveable.

Second half we looked ok until that lengthy injury delay. It allowed Wakefield to regroup, calm themselves down and they looked much better than us after that. Two of their tries came directly of Mullally just bumping our would-be tackler off the ball to break the line. As for Tim Smith, the guy could've played with a dinner suit on, such was his freedom and lack of pressure. Was he even tackled, all game? Just not good enough defensively.