Good post Wigsy, you sum up how I feel too. I can't help but feel there's more going on than we know about on here. Some straight talking would probably help and stop a few knees jerking (including mine!)

I'm not for a change in coach unless the new guy would be a definite improvement and the names mentioned so far by others don't get me enthused.

Well every cloud has a silver lining as i talked one of my friends from Wigan to go to the game. It was her first game and she loved it.

All she said to me was "i thought bradford were ok."

I was that wound up i even said i hope the Rhinos batter you next week.

There are comparisons with Cas, though we never had the success of the Bulls to build on. A succession of average or crap coaches damaged the strcucture & goodwill of the club. But we survived 2 relegations & the break up (rape) of a potentially outstanding core of players. Cas are a smallish club who do not expect success as a right & are prepared to stand for a period of failure partially because we know there will always be a nucleus of outstanding youngsetrs coming through. All that is needed is someone at the helm to direct the ship. Matterson is proving better than I expected, even though I would rather see a British coach (& I admit to liking Cullen) there would be a queue of ex Aussies down Manchester Road if the Bradford job came up.

I disagree - Wigan were certainly up for it but Bradford's defence was appalling, particularly one on one and close to the line. Once Wigan broke the line it looked like the rest of the team had given up.

I could be wrong - we'll see next weekend when Wigan come to Headingley

Obviously there were a number of factors behind our success during the 90's and early 00's, but it owed much to a number of inspired signings. Players such as Paul Anderson, Danny Peacock, Withers, Forshaw & Gartner were real bargains and huge successes. The likes of Les and Hape maybe cost a bit more but were still gambles. We "out-recruited" every other club during the period 1996 to 2003.

Morrison aside I cant remember the last signing that has really come up trumps, that has made fans of other clubs question why they hadnt gone for him. The signing of Harris by Noble obviously started the rot, but MacNamara's recruitment record has been extremely disappointing. Solomona has been a costly failure and his other signings have generally done no better than was expected and usually far worse.

The lack of effort on Saturday was hugely disappointing, but probably more worrying in the longer term is the fact that the current squad doesnt have that much more to offer. And I really cant see things improving until we have a coach, or someone else in the club, who can identify and recruit better players than Jeffries, Platt, Sheriffe, Nero, Sykes & co without breaking the bank.

Recruitment hasn't been great and we've got a real imbalance in the squad as well as a lack of quality.

It seems to me that unless McNamara can suddenly start to work some magic then you're right, we'll be stuck with mediocrity at best, and I don't think that's going to be sustainable for very long. Performances like the one at Wigan will see gates go through the floor.

Given the lack of finance to bring in top quality players (I'm taking it as a given that we can't really compete for the big names anymore despite the assurances from Peter Hood) it looks like we'e going to need a new coach at some stage who can get more out of limited players and develop the kids. Who this new messiah is I do not know!

The irony of the above is not lost on me... An honorary Scotsman and Yorkshireman, and the only reference you can come up with involves money...

Of course, your statement is inaccurate... most people's reaction when finding a ha'penny in their change is "Wow, I haven't seen one of these in a while." and as I'm sure you're aware, people pay more than ha'penny to get them in their collections.

So comparing my opinion to a ha'penny is actually saying "Your opinion is like a 1/2p coin. People who actually know a bit about what your saying are genuinely interested and you're like a little surprise popping up every now and again."

The answer is not Paul Cullen

Well not any more!

The great thing to come out of the Bulls mini-crisis is the return of Adey, FA & AP to the site. One more loss & we could see Green Vigo & Eddie Szymala back giving us their wisdom.

. . . . . . . [ievery [/icloud has a silver lining

to be fair I would talk more if you let me out of the cellar and removed this billiard ball

It would need to be a football to shut you up.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I returned from self-imposed exile following a very positive development on the moderating team front. At that time, we were merely in the middle of a Little Local Difficulty.

It is only since my return that events have developed not necessarily to our advantage - make of that what you will...

I disagree.

If the question is...........

After Gary Schofield, who is the biggest gobe in Rugby League?

I know who you mean & what you mean. Not that I agree with you.

Do Bradford need to lose a few more games before action is taken ?

If we win Sunday, SM gets a breather, if we win a couple of the coming games, SM job is safer.

Where will that get us in the long run ? A few wins, maybe a place in the play offs ?

Is that what Bradford wants ?

No offence against Mcnamara on a personal level, but I don't think he is capable of taking a team towards any silverware.

I've always supported the British coaches, but in all honesty, we ain't really producing many of them are we. OK Nobby was an exception, but take him out of the equation, who are the other coaches to win silverware ?

As much as it pains me to say this, but I think we need to lose a few more games, for those at the top to actually do something.

Or do we hang on to what we got (No Manilow pun intended) and accept that our days of reigning are over for now ?

No club should sack a coach only 3 games into the season.

If we win on sunday of course he gets a breather and his job becomes safer the more he wins.

Question i have is when does the club take action if we do keep losing. The club can be too loyal.

With any luck we'll win more and don't have to worry about the coach.

Based on the result at Leeds tonight, Bradford really are worse than I thought.

Wigan were outclassed by a patched up Leeds side. The same Wigan that hammered Bradford last week.

Dark days ahead at Odsal.

'your only as good as your last game', never has a truer word been said after tonights match

Leeds had every bit of luck tonight. In the 2nd half Wigan were just as good for a lot of it. Just didn't take chances really.

A patched up Leeds side? Come off it.

Leeds are still the standard in Super league mind and Bradford are well off it.

Senior, Diskin and Buderus out.
Watkins, 18 yesterday, in centre.
No recognised hooker.
Kirke off injured early, Ali & Bailey off in 2nd half injured.
Webb played 1/2 a game

Wait till Leeds have a fully fit squad to pick from

i'd still hardly call it a patched up team. Watkins is a classy young centre. Don't miss senior as much as you used too.

I suppose you could say the same about us too...

If Bradford had played tonight's Wigan, rather than last weeks it would still be 0-0 now (although knock ons would be about 300 apiece).