No sugar daddy for Bradford- they just fleeced the tax payer (that's you and me) and other businesses. Several times. As for the crowd numbers- we all know that the number actually on the the terraces at Bradford bears little resemblance to the "crowd figures" that are published. If you hadn't inflated those perhaps your tax bill would have been lower.
Anyhow that long list of achievements cannot be claimed by you anymore. That dodo is now dead. No more. Gone. The new Bradford has won a sum total of nothing. At any level. Although no doubt you'll continue to claim those achievements - further rubbing the nose in the creditors who never got what they were owed. I can't believe there are still some Bradford fans like you.

The owners did. The club didn't. That post was a retaliation to FlyingProp. How can you not claim those achievements? New company fair enough. But even in 1963 when we were liquidated we still had the history from the early 1900's. Rangers FC were liquidated yet stated that the current club was founded in March 1872; 144 years ago. And still claim all the records and titles of the previous 'incarnation' so please spare me the moral high ground cr@p. [uIf you haven't already read this forum, pretty much all of us are absolutely gutted about most of the creditors loosing out and we condemn the likes of Marc Green who did that.[/u So what else do you want me to do? Stop supporting my team because a previous owner ripped people off? I don't see you getting irate about the likes of Google and Apple who fleece billions a year from the taxman or stop using their products? How about Giants fans stop coming on here and giving us grief if you aren't prepared to face the facts of your own club.

It's just frustrating that your fans are condemning our fans when the situation has nothing to do with us. We condemn it ourselves. Plus it really does take the biscuit when your club isn't so innocent itself. We are aware of the mistakes of the owners and us fans are paying for it by watching our club go from the pinnacle to the Championship (should have been League 1). And don't ever say you can't believe there are still Bradford fans like me. If it hadn't been for fans like me who stuck by the club and the team then there wouldn't be a Bradford team today. As I say I do not want to game to suffer or any club to go under. But the reality is those with sugar daddies are the ones who will suffer soon. Once those guys get bored or in Davy's case pass on. Where does your money come from? Your club especially hasn't taken note of Wigan or Leeds and become more self sustaining.

I can't believe there are still some Giants fans like you. I can you're a very bitter bunch. Not Halifax bitter but bitter none the less.

If we can't claim our history that means you lot definitely never played at Fartown so sort that chant out. You know the one you knocked off Huddersfield town and changed it to "we're Fartown". It's "we're don valley" and that doesn't work.

On the bright side it does mean you now can claim the 1998 challenge cup which was a great achievement. Much better than trying to claim the Carnegie nines or that thing against Batley and a couple of French teams in Barcelona are anything special.

However, it does mean you can't level the financial record at us. "We" didn't fleece anyone. We're a brand new club dumb . You contradicted yourself there so look a bit foolish.

How much did Ken bill himself when he transferred Giants' shares in the ground to another company he set up? Has he given/sold them back yet? Is his own company still based at the ground? Have town paid off the loan taken out while he was chairman to build more offices there?

I know he said he'd put them in to trust when he got found out just interested to see if it's happened.

By that logic your club sprang into existent as Hudds-Sheff. Anything before that is as dead as a dodo. What do you owe Sheffield?

have gone and there are new people at the helm now. They don't deserve your ire.

I think I do. I was sat behind a row of 5 or 6 young Huddersfield fans who kept looking enviously behind them at the throng of noisy Bradford fans at the back of the stand. The fact that we are subject to such ire when we are on our knees and on the brink of permanent oblivion demonstrates a key fact: Bradford are a massive club. This isn't arrogance; rather, it is an indictment of how bad fans of clubs like Huddersfield are at being smug, which must surely be rooted in a deep held inferiority complex. Now either Huddersfield has some serious parenting problems and accompanying self esteem issues, or fans have an acute awareness of their own irrelevance.

There are a few ways that this can be dealt with:

- Actually get some people through the door. It's not straightfoward but that would probably make it seem like people actually give a fsck.
- Have a prolonged period of success, which would have the added benefit of making Superleague less boring as a sporting narrative.
- Go about your business with dignity greater than someone turning up to a funeral laughing and eating popcorn.

Seriously, it's like there's an outbreak of undiagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder or something in Kirklees. The amount of whinging, pi$$ing, b1tch1ng, and moaning is amazing, and contrasts starkly with the sentiments of the Leeds, Saints, Wigan, and Leigh fans of the world, who have been almost entirely unwavering in their well wishing and support of a Bradford club on life support.

If you want your club to be considered a 'Big Club', act like it. You have nobody to blame but yourselves for your failings.

Ey up Bradford fans. Who was the lad wearing number 27? He was an absolute monster.... can we have him too? Good turnout from your lot yesterday, you would have outnumbered us had it not been for Brearleys comment!

Cheers pal. It was just good to be at a game. Beforehand I was afraid we'd get stuffed so to compete was a pleasant surprise.

Jon Magrin is the lad in number 27.

There was a little more aggro than I was expecting from a friendly. Which on many levels is a good thing for us. In a competitive game, need to be careful with penalties though.

Mellor was involved a bit, but he's needing to stand out at a new club, so that's his excuse.
Danny Brough. Enough said, he could start an argument in an empty room.
Our number 13, he seemed a bit argumentative as well, and Mendieka.

I thought the tackle with Peltier where he was lifted and speared to the ground was the dangerous one, but the ref saw it & was happy so heigh ho.

Lots to be positive with.

Thank you sir. I thought Magrin was probably the stand out player for both sides, he has some size and leg drive and it took 3 men to bring him down every drive. Is he another academy product?

Nope. We got him from London.

Mendeika was captain yesterday, so I suspect most of his particular discussions were him fullfilling those duties. Certainly he was called over as captain a couple of times during the 5 mental or so minutes shortly after Roberts put the cheap shot in on Pickersgill.

As well as the strong performances from the likes of Magrin and Peltier, it was good to see some previously out of favour players like Mendeika and Halafihi get stuck in. If they can put in that sort of performance for the rest of the season then while I'm not convinced we'll stay up, I may not find this season as utterly grim as I was expecting.

I thought Halafihi did ok as did young Reiss Butterworth. We're ok for hookers with these two as bzck up for Joe Lumb.

Butterworth's 40-20 was special.

Even if there was no way in hell it went that side of the 20. That linesman needed spectacles. It was a good couple of metres short. Not that I was complaining.

ah good to see the bradford and huddersfield fans getting on so well again



now the pre testimonial game talk is over normal service has resumed showing true feelings about each others clubs

Some good noises coming out. That's all i ask for as a fan. 100% effort and don't be bullied by the opposition. Glad we're sticking up for ourselves a bit as our SL wannabe squad of the past couple of seasons were bullied like some little schoolboys.

Just noticed Total RL quoted Rick Stone about concerns around 3 injured players, including Dale Ferguson and the famous/infamous hamstring of a certain Mr. Gaskell!!!

No surprise re Gaskell. What a wasted talent.
No problems with Fergie - always looked an honest grafter if unspectacular. Good luck to him.

I saw Hamstring walking about the technical area yesterday, maybe that's what did it.

Unfortunately we were sat in front of some Bulls fans as well. Wayneta and Wayneta, 2 foul mouthed large ladies in Bulls shirts who were in a box> they were horrible and foul, were Fing and blinding until they were warned by a steward to shut it or they were being thrown out for an early trip back to bradford. Hope those fat horrible foul mouthed things never come to the John Smiths again.

good un

Don't tell him Pike.

I agree with you in regards to these so called ladies. Not getting at your fans but I was sat next to couple who brought a few week old twins to the match. One of the babies did not have any wheadgear on a freezing day. To make things worse the father was drinking cider throughout the game. These weren't young parents they both looked well into their 30s. I wanted to say something but being sat amongst your supporters I feared causing an argument that may have got out of hand. I honestly do not believe the mentality of people like these,including those women.

Going to the RL is like travelling on the bus. You do see all sorts.