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| Quote ="tigertot"That's just rubbish. There is never less than a queue of coaches, unemployed coaches & aspirational former players looking for such opportunities. There will still be even now. At the time Bradford were one of the 2 most successful teams of the SL era.'"
Excuse me if im wrong here, but i can't remember all the best coaches and "aspirational" former players forming an orderly queue at the main gates at odsal! quite the oppisate, Wigan, Warrington, Leeds and Huddersfield where more intresting to them than coaching at Bradford!
Being the 2nd most successful team in the Super league era means absalute feckall when the majority of your best players iether sod off, retire or are injured for example Les and Hape, in the space of 2 years!
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| Quote ="steamingbull02"Excuse me if im wrong here, but i can't remember all the best coaches and "aspirational" former players forming an orderly queue at the main gates at odsal! '"
That is maybe to do with the fact that McNamara was given the job as soon as Noble left and therefore there was no position available.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"That is maybe to do with the fact that McNamara was given the job as soon as Noble left and therefore there was no position available.'"
What he said.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You joined the ranks of the mis-quoters too now? For "should keep" read "give us a better, realistic and affordable alternative".
What isn't rubbish though is that we wouldn't have been able to afford a top dollar coach. And as I recall it was an aspirational former player who got the job.'"
As with everyone on here, I have no idea who was available nor who will be available. But I would be convinced that there will be numerous with as good a CV as Macca had at the same cost, almost all overseas. Brown, Matterson, Morgan were rookies too. It's no coincidence to me that the struggling British coaches - Agar & Lowes - were cheap, easy options, promoted from within.
I could give a number of options, a number have been quoted, you would just say they are unaffordable. You pay peanuts...
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| Quote ="tigertot"...
I could give a number of options, a number have been quoted, you would just say they are unaffordable. You pay peanuts...'"
McNamara isn't a monkey, though, and while snappy posts are fine, it's still gross over-simplification.
When you say that, you disregard the fact that if the Bulls sacked Mac then there is a big wedge of cash needed to pay him off and so it isn't just a question of the wages of an incoming coach, in terms of being able to afford one. Though i'm sure you know this.
Finally, there seems to be plenty of signs that the club is continuing to back Mac so if there is any suggestion that the [isole[/i reason he's still here is money, then i would say the evidence doesn't support that.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Finally, there seems to be plenty of signs that the club is continuing to back Mac so if there is any suggestion that the [isole[/i reason he's still here is money, then i would say the evidence doesn't support that.'"
Where is this recent evidence? RER seems to have his ear to the ground. His later postings indicate that might not be the case.
Even though I don't think Mac is a monkey, the evidence in league positions indicates the opposite.
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| I now think that Macca is realising that his previous signings have been pis$ poor and is now making better ones. If we sign a quality half and at least look into a centre so we can use sykes as back up then i'll be happy to start next season with him as coach. We can't really salvage this season, but seen as we know he'll be here then we'll have to give him another season to prove himself.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Where is this recent evidence? RER seems to have his ear to the ground. His later postings indicate that might not be the case.'"
What do you mean, where is it? Don't you read stuff on here? Is his name still on his office door? I've been saying for a few weeks that he had that dead-man-walking air about him but nothing has happened, he's still here, so who knows? I don't think anybody does, and I certainly don't claim to know.
Quote Even though I don't think Mac is a monkey, the evidence in league positions indicates the opposite.'"
12th to date, previous years 3rd and 5th? It might at a stretch be used as evidence that he'd [iturned into[/i a monkey but surely not that he [iis[/i one? Or don't previous decent league finishes count?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What do you mean, where is it? Don't you read stuff on here? Is his name still on his office door? I've been saying for a few weeks that he had that dead-man-walking air about him but nothing has happened, he's still here, so who knows? I don't think anybody does, and I certainly don't claim to know.'"
You said there were plaenty of signs. Apart from the fact he is still coach I haven't seen or heard anything recently.
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| Quote ="tigertot"You said there were plaenty of signs. Apart from the fact he is still coach I haven't seen or heard anything recently.'"
Well I keep seeing solitary magpies on the way to work, could that be one of them?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Well I keep seeing solitary magpies on the way to work, could that be one of them?'"
Might be Alan Shearer.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Might be Alan Shearer.'"
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I have posted precisely this on a number of occasions recently, and in more detail. To recap: we received a B licence last time - that's 5-7 points. IIRC re scored 7. If we don't get the OSV, then next round we gain a point for the salary cap breach, but could lose 3 for ground < 40% full, average attendances <10k and not making a major contribution to the game. That looks to me to be the worst case, and gives 5 points so still (just) a B licence. We'd have probably 7 points with the OSV, worst case.
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just a thought but could rumours about us playing at dewsbury whilst odsal is being done be in order to stop us losing this franchise point. As the <40% full criteria would be applied over the 3 years, we were above last year, may be slightly below this year but would be likely to get 80%+ capacity in a 12k rams stadium as opposed to 30-40% at VP.
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| Quote ="mat"just a thought but could rumours about us playing at dewsbury whilst odsal is being done be in order to stop us losing this franchise point. As the <40% full criteria would be applied over the 3 years, we were above last year, may be slightly below this year but would be likely to get 80%+ capacity in a 12k rams stadium as opposed to 30-40% at VP.'"
Dewsbury is now looking like the most likely place.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Dewsbury is now looking like the most likely place.'"
Something needs to be sorted quickly as concrete plans will need to be in place prior to the season tickets for next year going on sale
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Something needs to be sorted quickly as concrete plans will need to be in place prior to the season tickets for next year going on sale'"
problem with that is season tickets will be on sale a couple of months before council make final decision.
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| think they'll announce before season tickets go on sale, they have to
Days of games and place will affect some peoples ability to renew
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"think they'll announce before season tickets go on sale, they have to
Days of games and place will affect some peoples ability to renew'"
but its out of clubs control. tickets go on sale late october and council arent due to make final decision til december.
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| Dewsbury? That's nearly in another county.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I now think that Macca is realising that his previous signings have been pis$ poor and is now making better ones. If we sign a quality half and at least look into a centre so we can use sykes as back up then i'll be happy to start next season with him as coach. We can't really salvage this season, but seen as we know he'll be here then we'll have to give him another season to prove himself.'"
Dont get your hopes up mate, the distinctly average parternship of Nero and Sykes will remain next season, it will also be watered down even further with the departure of Semi and a less that suitable replacement signed to play of the left wing.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Something needs to be sorted quickly as concrete plans will need to be in place prior to the season tickets for next year going on sale'" I would think that we will be at Odsal all of next season.
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| Quote ="tigertot"You said there were plaenty of signs. Apart from the fact he is still coach I haven't seen or heard anything recently.'"
But as a non-Bulls fan, living miles away in Poshville, how would you?
TBF they did try to send a man with a daily update, but couln't get past the intercom at your driveway gates.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"But as a non-Bulls fan, living miles away in Poshville, how would you? '"
You could save me the effort & post the evidence on here.
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I'll be having words with the butler. Damn cheap Eastern Europeans.
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| Quote ="tigertot"You could save me the effort & post the evidence on here.
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I think we all know that that is unlikely.
If, as seems to be being suggested, McNamara's position has actually [istrengthened[/i at the club then we are in a worse position than I originally thought.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I think we all know that that is unlikely.
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