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| I could think of a few others I would be far more gutted to lose.
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| Well I would imagine the club will be looking to offer him a new deal after a promising start to this year. Before that he struggled with injuries and never looked likely to be a future star. He still needs to prove himself in SL so we'd be foolish to get into a bidding war for his services.
If the price is right I would like to see him stay at the club though.
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| Agree about Crookes. With things as they are though there will be quite a few hoping for the same I'd guess.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Well I would imagine the club will be looking to offer him a new deal after a promising start to this year. Before that he struggled with injuries and never looked likely to be a future star. He still needs to prove himself in SL so we'd be foolish to get into a bidding war for his services.
If the price is right I would like to see him stay at the club though.'"
Think his only difference this year is Keith Lulia at the side of him.
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| Quote ="fido"Think his only difference this year is Keith Lulia at the side of him.'"
Not sure I would agree entirely, but they did look a good combination. Crookes did a lot of good stuff in defence as well as attack before his injury.
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| It wouldn't surprise me if this one was true. I was talking with his dad (who works in the same building as me) last season and he was hoping that Widnes would make an offer for him. I got the impression (although it wasn't explicitly stated) that he wasn't enjoying his time a Bradford. Of course this was before his little run of form at the start of this season.
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Being linked with us for next season anygood?'"
just because you have a chairman with abit of money doesn't mean you can sign up half of superleague its getting boring now. listening to hull fans thinking every player would love to play for them just because gareth ellis is following the money, and your fans have believed the line of "well he just wanted to come here he believes in what we are trying to aim for and we are going to pay him peanuts for the pleasure".
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| In fairness, how do you think the Hull FC fans felt when we signed McNamara, Vaikona and Radford?
We don't have to like it; we just have to accept that without a rich owner then what went round has come round.
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| Quote ="dubairl"just because you have a chairman with abit of money doesn't mean you can sign up half of superleague its getting boring now. listening to hull fans thinking every player would love to play for them just because gareth ellis is following the money, and your fans have believed the line of "well he just wanted to come here he believes in what we are trying to aim for and we are going to pay him peanuts for the pleasure".'"
Kn0b!
What has the rich owner got to do with looking at OOC players?
FWIW this rumour has been going around for a couple of months in the RL papers as well, not just this forum.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Kn0b!
What has the rich owner got to do with looking at OOC players?
FWIW this rumour has been going around for a couple of months in the RL papers as well, not just this forum.'"
Along with dozens of others...where would we be without rumours? Yawn..ZZzzzzz
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| Quote ="Adeybull"In fairness, how do you think the Hull FC fans felt when we signed McNamara, Vaikona and Radford?
We don't have to like it; we just have to accept that without a rich owner then what went round has come round.
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McNamara - indifferent
Radford - slightly peeved
Vaikona - suicidal
To be fair, do you guys not investigate rumoured signings for your club? This isn't some kind of delusional "big club" attitude from Hull fans, we're simply interested in players that the press link us too.
I hope you manage to retain all of your talented young players, and your new management restores Bradford back to "big club" status. The entire league misses the numbers you used to attract.
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| To be fair you are only asking for our opinion on a potential signing who you correctly say is ooc? Seems a reasonable request to me
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"To be fair you are only asking for our opinion on a potential signing who you correctly say is ooc? Seems a reasonable request to me'"
Shame that it was met with the usual vitriol on here by supposed fans of the club. There really are a lot of s that follow the Bulls.
FWIW, Crookes can go for me. He has been around for ages and has either been too rubbish or too injured to have any impact on the team. A few decent games this season has seemingly blinkered our "knowledgable" support.
Just another Dave Halley and if Pryce and Kear were available he would not get a look in. Would not be a loss.
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| Welcome back ME. Koppy has been around for ages, and no doubt you have said, FWIW, that he could go. good call. So lets look at your preferences: Pryce is in todays TnA saying [i"It’s been difficult on occasions when we’ve lost and I’ve been stuck out on the wing."[/i he of course does have the option of doing what TV or LV or even Gareth Raynor more recently would do, which is a few drives up the middle himself, for the sake of his own team mates. It is a team game. Crookes, 1000% more effort in attack and defence. Kear yes you have a point, but comparing his and Crookes STANDARDISED stats to the point they were injured, the only stat Kear was significantly better than Crookes was offloads, the rest were much of a muchness. so why one or the other, given they are no different, why not both?
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| Oops forgot to say the one stat that Crookes was significantly better at than Kear is tries scored 5 against 1 (thats tries in SL rounds not friendlies btw). any stat more important for a winger? who are you replacing Crookes with?
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"Welcome back ME. Koppy has been around for ages, and no doubt you have said, FWIW, that he could go. good call. So lets look at your preferences: Pryce is in todays TnA saying [i"It’s been difficult on occasions when we’ve lost and I’ve been stuck out on the wing."[/i he of course does have the option of doing what TV or LV or even Gareth Raynor more recently would do, which is a few drives up the middle himself, for the sake of his own team mates. It is a team game. Crookes, 1000% more effort in attack and defence. Kear yes you have a point, but comparing his and Crookes STANDARDISED stats to the point they were injured, the only stat Kear was significantly better than Crookes was offloads, the rest were much of a muchness. so why one or the other, given they are no different, why not both?'"
Had do you know Mick Potter isn't telling Pryce not to get too heavily involved with carting the ball up.
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| Let me rephrase that for you. Do I know that Potter is telling Pryce to stay out on the wing and do nothing to help his team mates. No I don't have the hotline to Potters thoughts, but what do you think Potter is telling him? You're a 6' 5" 18 stone wing with a bit of pace, best to stay out of trouble on the wing than damage your complexion with a few drives up the middle?
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| Quote ="redeverready"Had do you know Mick Potter isn't telling Pryce not to get too heavily involved with carting the ball up.'"
I think Potter must have told him to hide behind the billboards, 19th in the Bulls league for carries is pathetic for a bloke of that size & ability.
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| I've not noticed him shirking and he missed the first few games. He's run it in hard, made his tackles and taken what chances have come his way. The problem with Pryce is we haven't got the ball wide quick enough or often enough. I don't see what he's done wrong tbf.
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| Pryce is the new Platt. Once certain people don't like him, they are blind to whatever he does, even if he made 200 carries, 20km and did 500 tackles and hit -ups while scoring a triple hat-trick, they would never give him any credit.
I haven't been his biggest fan, to say the least, but not unfairly, and always retain an open mind and eyes. Both have been pretty impressed with Pryce in the current incarnation, he's had some decent games, especially when he played as emergency full-back, and I can't see he's done anything to justify the continued bile. People should give credit where it's due, and in his case, it is.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"I've not noticed him shirking and he missed the first few games. He's run it in hard, made his tackles and taken what chances have come his way. The problem with Pryce is we haven't got the ball wide quick enough or often enough. I don't see what he's done wrong tbf.'"
Quote ="Ferocious Earth-pig"Pryce is the new Platt. Once certain people don't like him, they are blind to whatever he does, even if he made 200 carries, 20km and did 500 tackles and hit -ups while scoring a triple hat-trick, they would never give him any credit.
I haven't been his biggest fan, to say the least, but not unfairly, and always retain an open mind and eyes. Both have been pretty impressed with Pryce in the current incarnation, he's had some decent games, especially when he played as emergency full-back, and I can't see he's done anything to justify the continued bile. People should give credit where it's due, and in his case, it is.'"
Agree with both of those assessments.
And if he comes in off his wing looking for work, and some bugger on the other side gets hold of the ball and wings it out wide and past him then folk would be on his back for leaving a gap out wide? Seems to me he is damned whatever he does? Without knowing what Potter's gameplan is, its hard to form an objective view.
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| I've never bagged Platt, or Sykes, because every crap game I saw them play they gave everything. Both have become internationals on the back of it, with a fraction of the natural ability of Pryce. He should be one of the first names on McBanana's England sheet. Instead he is still stealing a wage based on what he could do, albeit not as blatantly as times in the past.
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| On Crookes, it would be good to see him stay to see if he can continue his development, otherwise he might come back to haunt us like atkins. However, if he'd gone in the offseason I don't think anyone would have complained. He has had more than his share of injuries and its only the start of this season he started to really show what he's capable of.
If Hull get him its a decent aquisition by them, but he's still a work in progress. If any of our players want to leave you can hardly blame them at the moment, or other clubs for enquiring for that matter. I just hope we can demonstrate to them as a club sooner rather than later that its worth staying with us as we do have the potential for a group of home grown players to develop all at the same time and crookes could be a part of that.
On Pryce, I think he has been a decent player this season, no huge mistakes, takes his chances, I think he is and always has suffered by comparision to the player we all think he should be given his physical attributes and his brother. But thats unfair IMHO, yes he might be able to make more of his skills and phyisicality, but he's doing ok for me this season for the player he actually is at the moment, not the player we all want him to be (some people seem to expect him to be some cross between Newlove and Leon which is unrealisitc).
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| Quote ="Duckman"(some people seem to expect him to be some cross between Newlove and Leon which is unrealisitc).'"
Why, he has the abilities?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Pryce is the new Platt. Once certain people don't like him, they are blind to whatever he does, even if he made 200 carries, 20km and did 500 tackles and hit -ups while scoring a triple hat-trick, they would never give him any credit.
I haven't been his biggest fan, to say the least, but not unfairly, and always retain an open mind and eyes. Both have been pretty impressed with Pryce in the current incarnation, he's had some decent games, especially when he played as emergency full-back, and I can't see he's done anything to justify the continued bile. People should give credit where it's due, and in his case, it is.'"
Spot on with that assessment, imo.
For sure Karl isn't ripping it up but he's solid, reliable and makes few mistakes. He's been pretty good under the high ball both in attack and defence. He's doing OK, so why the complaints?
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